The Outer Planets and the Angles: Paying the Price for Wisdom

Synastry Studies by Dawn Bodrogi

Outer Planets and Angles in Synastry

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Last month we explored the romantic possibilities—and instant attractions—that can occur when angles meet planets in synastry. The angles act as a kind of magnetic antennae; we not only sense the world (and others) through them, but they act as a gateway for the evolution of our consciousness. No wonder they play a key role in drawing potential partners to us.

Angles and Inner Planets: Review

On the whole, the initial contact between angles and inner planets is a positive one. We might run into difficulties with the planet involved, but usually there is something about the urgency and energy of the angle that puts things right, at least for a time. That planet becomes important—elevated by its contact with the angle—and both people sense this. We tell ourselves, ‘we can work this out.’

One of the reasons is that, well, we can work things out with an inner planet. Inner planets are tangible, accessible. Inner planets have to do with our real, everyday lives. In fact, the inner planets are the tools we use to negotiate the world. We feel and sense (Moon), we think (Mercury), we love and connect with what we love (Venus), we act (Mars), we grow (Jupiter) and we construct our world and make use of our experience (Saturn). We can make decisions about each of these planets and functions. We can go with our instincts or try to correct their expression through use of our conscious will.

The Perversity of the Outer Planets

The difference between outer planets and inner planets is vast. Howard Sassportas described it well in his breakthrough book, The Gods of Change. They behave as if they have not a care in the world about us mere mortals. They are more willful, perverse and complex than any resident of Mount Olympus. It’s hard to pin them down to a simple function. We understand their motives—to change us, to shake us from our habits and complacency so that we become more aware, more alive. But their processes, and what seems at times to be an abject cruelty, baffle us.

Until we are awakened to ourselves, to our own potential, we don’t acknowledge them as part of us. They come out of the blue, from a place we do not recognize. This ‘shock of the new’ is especially potent when outer planets become active in our lives through our romantic partnerships. When they appear via ‘other’ we may fall in love deeply, intensely—but we must also brace ourselves for change and, possibly, for loss. It may be that we are required to relinquish a cherished part of ourselves.

The Shadow of the Descendent

In astrological terms, it’s easy to see why partnerships are designed to be both blissful and difficult. The Descendant, opposite the sign rising, represents ‘other’—our serious partnerships, yes, but also the Shadow, as defined by Carl Jung. It contains all that we cannot see or acknowledge in ourselves (this is also somewhat true of the IC as opposed to the midheaven). It is ripe for projection: we pin qualities on to others that they may not possess, qualities that are part of our own unacknowledged psyche.

In essence, partnership, in spiritual terms, is meant to reveal our darker and hidden sides to ourselves. This can include both gifts and so called ‘issues.’ The person with Leo rising and Aquarius on the Descendant may get involved with a series of relationships that end abruptly, causing Leo to question whether she is aware of her own need for detachment. The cautious Virgo rising may fall for a series of saints, drunks and others permanently unavailable, until she acknowledges her own Neptunian elements and embraces the artist within (Pisces Descendant).

On the whole, when we’re younger, we fall for the negative expression of the sign on the Descendant. (Of course, it all starts out positive, with the negative expression only revealing itself once we’ve gotten cozy.) Wisdom and experience gradually teach us, and once we embrace that shadow side of ourselves, better choices become not only possible, but probable.

The outer planets are at their most devastating when we refuse to see. If we reject growth and cling on to our lesser selves, the outer planets will make sure that the bond between us and our lesser selves is broken. And one of the quickest ways this happens is when the outer planet of one chart hits an angle in the other. It has its strongest impact when the planet touches the Descendant, but contact with the other angles can be just as intense and life-transforming.

”Death” by Outer Planets

All three of the outer planets represent a kind of death. We need to die to the lesser element of ourselves, and the outer planets are there to help us. They give us divine power on the one hand, and then abandon us with the other. We get a taste of holy bliss and then are ripped away. I always joke with my advanced synastry students that they get a choice of three ways of dying: you can get shot (Uranus), you can drown (Neptune) or you can get torn apart by bears (guess who?). Which one would you pick?

Actually, we don’t pick. The way we die to ourselves depends on which outer planet is prominent in the synastry. This can get complicated if a person doesn’t have much of that element in her chart. A double Scorpio, for example, might be very comfortable with a partner’s Pluto conjunct her Descendant. Yet this contact might devastate a person who is basically Neptunian, and unaware of the power plays that can arise in any partnership. A Uranian used to going her own way might be shaken to the core by the possessive intensity of her Plutonic relationship.

All inter-aspects are not equal, and a lot will depend on whether an individual accepts or rejects certain qualities in herself. This is one reason it’s necessary to assess the relative weighting of each of the outer planets in a natal chart before doing a synastry comparison.

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When an outer planet hits an angle, all hell can break loose, and often does. It’s not an exaggeration to say that the relationship can open a person to a new way of experiencing life—but not without cost, and sacrifice. Each one of the outer planets demands a price for the wisdom offered. Whether we are wise enough to accept what is given, and jettison what is no longer working, or whether we cling on to the familiar at the expense of our own evolution, depends on whether or not we are willing to sacrifice our naivete and accept change in the name of our own wholeness. The gods of change may initially seem like gods of disruption, but in reality they are harbingers of the evolution of our awareness.

Next month we will explore the effect of each of the outer planets on angles.

How do the outer planets wreak havoc on your sense of self and your relationships? Let us know in comments below.

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About Dawn Bodrogi

Dawn Bodrogi has studied astrology since the age of twelve, and has been a practicing astrologer for over twenty years with a special emphasis on synastry. Her studies in Jungian psychology, alchemy, and Buddhist philosophy inform her work. Her upcoming book, The Inner Wheel, takes a new look at interpreting secondary progressions. You can see more of Dawn’s work at her blog, The Inner Wheel: Living with Astrology.


  1. This is where astrology eludes me. I’ll have fun being a voyeur. ;D

  2. Is the article too abstract, quiche?

  3. No, it isn’t too abstract. Sasstrology articles are very clear.

    My exasperation comes from reading my chart: quincuxes and angles with midheavens and such is too much for me. One would assume that my being a scientist, I would like to try to figure it out myself. Nope. I’d rather order a report to skip the headache.

  4. awesome article, i have had the pleasure of dying all 3 deaths, all outer planets are quite prominent in my chart and also been having strong transits of all three!

  5. Thanks for this article Dawn. It basically confirms the conclusion that I came to about a connection that I decided it was time to end. Basically, what the experience with him taught me (for TWO WHOLE YEARS) is that all of the loving & fair qualities I’d assigned to him, actually resided within me. His Uranus in Scorpio fell into my 7th house. SMH You wanna talk about being shot? I felt like I was shot in the heart & knees upon our meeting/getting together, shot in the head when we broke up, and recently, shot in the back when I confronted him about not acknowledging my birthday and he actually waited over 2 weeks to answer the message, only to come down to the simple answer of…”I’m sorry, but I really just forgot.” I KNEW he was sincerely apologetic, but by that time I had already fully realized those qualities hidden deep inside of me brought out by our interaction. Our connection was held together by the this newfound graceful woman in me, but that was all there was to it. The more I interacted with him, the more the grace flowed, but then…it hit a brick wall for a very good reason and that’s when I knew that my introduction period to self was over. I’d gotten to know, accept, embrace, and take pride in my loving kindness (something that was not acceptable in my childhood and through adulthood). In order for the connection to continue, more would be required of him, but after 2 years I know him well enough to know that he’s not going to do what’s required. lol ha ha ha ha He has a Fixed Sun, Moon, AND Merc. He is who he is.

    The second outer planet connection that had a profound affect on how I relate to self was a Neptune in Scorpio. LMBO!!! All I can really say about that is that this dude projected every single insecurity & lack of confidence that I have ever had, past & present. I attempted to nurture him, but in the end, nah…I just accepted once again, that I’d been introduced to a side of me that I really needed to work on, and so it was ALOT easier for me to let that one go and thus begin the work on self, nurturing that fear he projected, but deep inside of me was resonating like a brass bell curve filled with water being hit with a soft rubber mallet. Everytime he voiced something…it would reverberate inside of me and I would see my OWN issue float to the top. I had to laugh at that one. lol It’s one thing when you can’t stand a person and don’t realize that you’re basically the same way…it’s easy to be frustrated and blame the other person for making your life a living hell, but when you see that the reason why you met up with this person was so that you can deal with issues that you’re ready and capable of dealing with…it’s kinda funny. lol and VERY amusing. The beautiful part about it is that the graceful woman I’d developed into over the past 2 years was totally willing and capable of embracing those undernourished qualities, giving myself a break, and loving myself through understanding how to finally mitigate those insecurities with thoughts, behaviors, and communication that honors the whole self rather than just the easy and more accessible facets of who and what I am.

    I think Nadia encouraged me a few months ago that nurturing my creative bend would improve my romantic relationships. I’m nurturing…I’m nurturing. lol

    I know I went a lil deeper than I usually do, but I’m an exhibitionist at heart. My vunerabilities have become somewhat sexy to me…like my womanly curves. They aren’t for everyone to see, but every now and then…it’s exhilarating to give those who wanna look a peek or two.

    I’m currently on (a man with) a Saturn in Scorpio. I ain’t gonna lie. This one scares the heck outta me. He’s not like the others and really…he’s bringing a boldness to the table that I’m undecided on whether I like it or not. I have come to the conclusion that what I want is not what I tend to need. That “eureka” hit me just last night while on the massage table. lol

  6. I wish I understood this article better. There seems to be some wisdom inherent in it.

  7. @novlady, I believe next month Dawn is going to expand on it with examples.

  8. @Jeffrey Kishner

    Oh, that would be great. The examples are very helpful.

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