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In synastry, contacts to the natal South Node indicate each person’s involvement in the other’s past, and contacts to the North Node describe the role they can play in the future. This is usually analyzed in the context of person A’s planet aspecting person B’s Node. However, Nodal overlays to the houses are not discussed as often. These overlays are significant, but only under certain conditions.
The natal South Node represents past life, and comfortable (but limiting) habits in this life. Too much emphasis on the South Node can result in stagnation. This is where the North Node comes in; it marks the path that a person can take to evolve beyond their South Node, and reach their full potential. The Nodes function differently than planets. They are markers along the path that stretches from a person’s past to their future. They are not planetary energy. If your partner’s South Node falls in your 7th House, it won’t activate that house, and you may feel nothing.
However, there are circumstances where you will feel the impact of someone’s Nodes in your houses:
- if their Nodes conjunct or square one of your natal planets
- if their Nodes conjunct your angles (the cusps of your 1st, 7th, 4th or 10th Houses)
When someone’s North or South Node is activated by your planets or angles, the Node person’s experience of their past and/or future will be directly tied to you. You’ll feel this in the context of the house (in your chart) that their Node falls in. Let’s look at some examples, keeping in mind that we’ll be approaching this primarily from the perspective of the house person. Also, when dealing with aspects between the Nodes and planets/angles, I use tight orbs (4-5 degrees maximum).
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Person B’s North or South Node Aspecting Person A’s 10th House Sun in Aquarius
This is not, in and of itself, a romantic contact. But a romantic relationship is assumed (due to other synastry aspects). Your Sun (ego and life’s purpose) is in your 10th House of career and future goals. You’re ambitious, focused on making your mark in your unique way (Aquarius). Your partner’s North Node conjuncts your Sun. The way you handle your career will be inspiring and/or discomforting for them, since it will push them out of their comfort zone. How they respond to this evolutionary prompt will describe the impact they have on your 10th House. You have the potential to be their guide, as you independently carve out your future. When you sense that they’re looking to you for answers, it may boost your ego (Sun). It could also inspire you to make innovative leaps, because your partner’s future (North Node) is tied to your future (10th House).
But if they are not ready to work with their North Node, they may criticize your career choices, or the emphasis you put on work. If your partner is stuck in the subjective rut of their Leo South Node, they may start to complain that you spend more time checking your business email than talking to them. You find their demands are a burden that distracts you from your goals. If they continue to resist their North Node path, you may feel that they’re holding you back.
If we flip things around, and put your partner’s South Node close to your 10th House Sun, the interface is (initially) more comfortable. There’s an instant familiarity between the two of you, since a Sun/South Node connection indicates past life involvement. In this life, the two of you may meet at your workplace. You become romantically involved, and the South Node person fully supports your career ambitions because it feels natural for them. Love and business combine beautifully.
Depending on how the South Node person handles their evolution (moving towards their North Node) it may disrupt your future plans. Their North Node path probably involves a move away from the scenario where the two of you first met. Perhaps they decide to quit their job for something that supports their creative self-expression (North Node in Leo). This can leave you feeling out of the loop, and you wonder if your partner’s future and your future are on the same path. They may, or may not be (depending on the rest of your synastry connections).
Let’s say your 10th House Aquarius Sun squares your partner’s Nodal axis (their Taurus North Node lies in your 2nd House, and their Scorpio South Node lies in your 8th House). As discussed in a previous article, when planets in synastry square the Nodes, the planet person is a skipped step (unfinished business) for the Node person. Perhaps in a past life you shook your partner up, refusing to be controlled by their Scorpio South Node jealousy. In in this life, they see your career ambitions as something that takes you away from them. Since their obsessive South Node is in your 8th House of intimacy and shared resources, this could manifest as the Node person trying to “own” you, sexually and financially. They need to move towards their Taurus North Node, which involves dialing it down from Scorpio paranoia to Taurus contentment. In your 2nd House (of personal resources) this could translate to your partner becoming more comfortable with your financial and emotional independence. To help them along, you can be aware that exercising your independence threatens them. So just keep doing it (with sensitivity, of course). That’s a bump they have to get over.
Person B’s North and South Nodes Conjunct Person A’s 1st/7th House Axis
Let’s say you have Virgo rising, and you meet someone whose South Node conjuncts your Virgo Ascendent. There’s an immediate sense of belonging, because the Node person’s habitual behavior (the helpful, hard-working worrier) blends with your external Virgo persona and identity. You can just be yourself with them, because they instinctively “get” you. Being with them reaffirms who you are. But as profound as this may feel, it’s no guarantee of a romantic relationship (even with the past-life connection, which may or may not have been romantic). You are drawn to the Node person, but you’ve got dreamy Pisces on your 7th House cusp (committed relationships), so you want a partner who personifies that transcendent energy. If the Node person has not been working with their Pisces North Node (which conjuncts your 7th House cusp), they may become a close friend, but not a romantic partner.
But maybe the Node person has done their evolutionary work, stepped outside their comfort zone, and dived into the Pisces waters of acceptance and letting go. Assuming there are other synastry contacts between the two of you that indicate attraction, this can turn into a powerful relationship. The Node person’s evolutionary path is exactly in line with what you’ve been looking for in a partner. The more they evolve, the stronger the partnership becomes.
If we put their South Node on your Pisces 7th House cusp, the probability of a past life romance is stronger. The Node person is already comfortable with dreams, romance and endless possibility, and this is the magic you’ve been looking for in a relationship. Depending on how they are living their South Node, they could bring idealism into your love life, or they could be a victim who needs saving. Either way, their Pisces habits, and your attraction to them, will be a potent draw. Since their Virgo North Node sits on your 1st House cusp, they may respond to your external persona with a mixture of irritation and discomfort. By being “you,” you’re a reminder of what the Node person could grow into (by grounding their dreams in the real world). They may resent this, and end up resenting you. This can make you question (in typical Virgo fashion) if there’s something wrong with who you are.
On the other hand, they may follow your lead and your grounded, practical way of approaching the world. This can be incredibly validating for you. And although it does not always have to be case, there’s a chance that the Node person may eventually feel that a relationship with you holds them back. As binding as South Node contacts can be, if the South Node person is ready to move forward, certain things must be left behind.
When looking at Nodal/house overlays in synastry, remember that the Nodes (by themselves) do not activate a house. The Nodes represent a person’s experience of their past and future — their karmic path. When that path crosses through the houses in your chart, you’ll feel the impact if one of your planets or angles make a hard aspect to it.[/show_to]
Related: Nodes in Synastry: An Introduction
Fascinating. I looked at my last boyfriend, and my north node was conjunct his Asc. it worked for 2.5 years. My Moon also conjuncted his south node and my sun squared his nodes, but by 6 degrees, so that may not count.
The guy that I really wanted to be in a relationship with didn’t want to be in one with me. He just wanted casual sex, and I wanted friendshhip and love. His south node was in libra in his 5th house (makes sense), and my mercury conjuncted his north node in his 11th. My south node conjuncted his MC….we met at his work.
My partener’s North Node conjunct my natal Ceres in the cusp of the 1st house.Also,his Sun conjunct my Saturn.
Hello Nadia ,thank you very much for share your knowledge,I would like to know if this aspect work with the vertex as well (NN conj VX),do you work with vertex?
Very interesting but a bit difficult to understand in my case. What do you think about potential partner North Node exactly on my Saturn in 12th house, and his South Node exactly on my Jupiter in 6th house?
Might be easygoing in the daily life, but hidden parts of myself connected to his future??
Nadia,
do you give any meaning to the Part of Fortune?
Let’s say in synastry we’ve got an exact conjunction PoF/North Node (10H), at the same time PoF person’s Sun is conjunct North Node person’s South Node (4H).
This has got to be karmic! 🙂
Any positive meaning, or would the South Node person drag the Sun person down?
Great article,Nadia.I have been trying to read about the Nodes,this is really helpful.
How would you read NN conjunct NN?
Mine is conjunct with 0 degs orb along with each other’s natal planets,my Uranus with his NN and his Mars with my NN.The NN houses involved are my 3rd and his 8th.We do have an unusual relationship considering Uranus is SN ruler for both of us.His Uranus squaring our Nodes is a skipped step.Does it mean there’s reluctance on his part to move forward in this life? Or will Mars conjunct our NNodes take it forward in this lifetime?
Very interesting, Nadia but also very, very complex to understand. Especially when the NN of one partner is the SN of the other!
Hi Nadia … I find the nodes very confusing! Say from the Astrodeintist synastry chart, only the NN is is indicated. Also it doesn’t say where someone else’s nodes fall in your chart (only the aspect)? Since they are calculations can you calculate it from NN? Also, South node doesn’t figure in that chart at all, so how do you know if there are any aspects?
I found NN sextile NN both in MC/10th house. (no other planetary aspects). Does that mean there can be a shared future but no karmic ties? Thanks so much.
.. I should have said both NN’s are in Aquarius.
@barb
Thanks for sharing your examples. 6 degrees is a pretty wide orb, but I’d say given the strength of your other connections with your ex, the squares to his Nodes counted.
@S
Your 1st House or his?
@Sapphron
I suppose if the orb is very tight (1 degree at the most)…one person’s future path (NN) activates the other’s point of fated connection (Vertex). But these are two points intersecting, not a point and planet, so I’m not sure if it would be felt in the same way.
@Céline
His path is connected to the challenge (in your chart) of hidden limits/fears versus external optimism. Your Saturn on his NN is a teaching aspect for him, but then it depends on how you handle your natal Saturn.
@H
I think the Sun/SN conjunction is where the karma is. POF and the Nodes is iffy, because the Nodes and POF are activated by planets, but not so much by each other. If anyone would be held back, it would be the SN person (held back by the Sun person). Because the Sun person would be a reminder of the SN person’s past, and their dependence on childhood scenarios that they need to move forward from. But that’s only if the Sun person is not willing to let the SN evolve.
@mermaid
NN/NN means you both have similar paths of evolution, and you can help each other. Your partner would help you in the areas of communication/ideas, and you would help them in how/what they share with others.How easy it is to move forward together really depends on how ready each of you are to let go of that SN. Mars can help, but it can also feel too aggressive.
Ahha, I see… I’m the South Node person. I hope this doesn’t automatically mean that I need to get away from the Sun person in order to “do” my NN well?
Hi Nadia!
My first house.
@Ana M Oliveira
In the scenario you described, the NN partner can help the SN partner move forward from their limiting habits, as long as the NN partner is ready to evolve. What the SN person is comfortable with is what the NN partner needs to evolve towards. This is where it’s important to remember that the SN is not “bad”; part of its energy is about the SN person’s natural talents. But those talents need to be developed further.
Thank you, Nadia!
With someone else, I’ve got SN/NN opposition (or conjunction, whatever) by sign, 10 degree orb. I realize it’s a very wide orb but I can clearly see how the opposing signs work for us (Virgo/Pisces axis).
We’re definitely teachers for each other. It was a romantic relationship that has basically turned into a lot of work. But it’s definitely a very strong tie. I wonder if there will be a point where we learn all we can from each other. Just talking out loud 🙂
Ana M Olivera – what signs are involved with your SN/NN?
@amy
On Astrodienist, you can see where the other person’s Nodes fall in your chart by looking at the bi-wheel option (one person’s wheel outside of the other). The SN is always exactly opposite the NN…so the exact opposite sign, house and degree. NN sextile NN doesn’t carry much weight. Your future paths may be complementary, but that’s about it (no karmic ties are indicated by this aspect). You need to look at the planetary rulers of the Nodes for more info.
@amy
…but if both NN are in Aquarius, they won’t be sextile. If they are within 1-3 degrees of each other, they will be conjunct.
@S
So, how you express a portion of your external identity (through nurturing) may make him uncomfortable, but is also what he needs to move towards. Depending on how he handles his NN, he may validate how you nurture, or not.
@H
No, not at all. You need to look at how the Sun person supports you as you work on your career/future goals (10th House).
Thanks for another fascinating article Nadia. I have a 1st House North node and ascendant in Virgo and 7th house South node and descendant in Pisces.
An old university friend from the past has turned up again in my life after 30 years! His Mars is almost exactly conjunct my South node and his Eros exactly conjunct my descendant. His Eros is also within close orb to my South node. His saturn in Saggitareus is square my North node in Virgo. I would like to understand the significance a bit better as its been a very confusing experience for me and Im being very careful as he’s still married (Im single). He’s a Taurus sun/moon but with uranus in his 7th house. in Leo.
You always offer such insightful feedback
Nadia
I forgot to say my South Node (7th) falls on his mars in Pisces in his first house.
Thanks again
Hi, Nadia. What about potential partners South Node conjunct my natal Sun, Mars and Ve in the 8th house?
And forgot to say, my 8th house is in Pisces. Thanks again
@Tabitha
HIs Mars conjunct your 7th House SN is going to activate (Mars) your relationship issues, so you’ll have to pay attention to how you work with (or slide back into) old relationship habits around him. His Saturn is square both your North and South Nodes, so he’s also there to teach you a lesson (Saturn) that you skipped over in your past life with him. Something to do with boundaries.
@Leo Piscean
They will bring up habits you have involving sharing and intimacy (giving too much, losing yourself in another, etc)
Hi Nadia, great post! I’ve been looking for info on NN/house synastries. Someone’s NN conjuncts my moon in my 7th house. How would I affect their past/future?
Its a very very long story involving 5 different families 100 years of heritage, and I’m scared to death….please help & any clues as to how the shit will hit the fan – because I know I’m the fuse that will ignite this fire???
THIS IS MY CHART:
Progressed planetary data Natal data
Sun Capricorn 25° 3′ in house 4 Sagittarius 6° 25′
Moon Scorpio 17° 19′ in house 2 Aquarius 10° 48′
Mercury Capricorn 11° 47′ in house 3 Sagittarius 16° 10′
Venus Aquarius 11° 46′ in house 4 Capricorn 22° 53′
Mars Aquarius 18° 26′ in house 4 Capricorn 11° 5′
Jupiter Gemini 22° 47′ in house 9 Gemini 28° 46′
Saturn Pisces 13° 41′ in house 5 Pisces 10° 40′
Uranus Virgo 19° 25′ in house 11 Virgo 19° 18′
Neptune Scorpio 21° 46′ in house 2 Scorpio 20° 20′
Pluto Virgo 18° 17′ in house 11 Virgo 18° 20′
Ascendant Libra 18° 14′ in house 1 Virgo 8° 24′
Midheaven Cancer 19° 55′ in house 10 Gemini 6° 19′
Node True Gemini 3° 29′ in house 8 Gemini 4° 39′
2 Scorpio 16° 24′ in house 2 Libra 4° 4′
3 Sagittarius 17° 17′ in house 3 Scorpio 3° 49′
4 Capricorn 19° 55′ in house 4 Sagittarius 6° 19′
5 Aquarius 22° 21′ in house 5 Capricorn 9° 5′
6 Pisces 22° 16′ in house 6 Aquarius 10° 5′
Zodiac: Tropical
Time Zone: 0 hours East
City of progressed: Baghdad
Lat. y Long. : 33N21 44E25
THIS IS MY SECRET LOVER’S CHAR:
Progressed planetary data Natal data
Sun Cancer 9° 42′ in house 4 Gemini 6° 55′
Moon Libra 4° 29′ in house 6 Cancer 11° 3′
Mercury Leo 5° 31′ in house 5 Gemini 5° 33′
Venus Gemini 24° 51′ in house 3 Taurus 13° 8′
Mars Gemini 4° 19′ in house 2 Taurus 9° 28′
Jupiter Leo 11° 0′ in house 5 Leo 4° 42′
Saturn Virgo 9° 25′ in house 6 Virgo 7° 23′
Uranus Scorpio 17° 10′ in house 7 Scorpio 18° 13′
Neptune Sagittarius 18° 33′ in house 9 Sagittarius 19° 27′
Pluto Libra 16° 25′ in house 7 Libra 16° 39′
Ascendant Aries 13° 40′ in house 1 Aquarius 23° 43′
Midheaven Capricorn 8° 17′ in house 10 Sagittarius 7° 2′
Node True Virgo 10° 21′ in house 6 Virgo 13° 23′
2 Taurus 19° 30′ in house 2 Aries 7° 1′
3 Gemini 15° 34′ in house 3 Taurus 11° 4′
4 Cancer 8° 17′ in house 4 Gemini 7° 2′
5 Leo 2° 13′ in house 5 Gemini 29° 43′
6 Virgo 2° 18′ in house 6 Cancer 23° 23′
Zodiac: Tropical
Time Zone: 0 hours East
City of progressed: Baghdad
Lat. y Long. : 33N21 44E25
So, what if your saturn conjuncts someone’s south node and your natal saturn trines their north node ruler (mars in aries)? Doesn’t that indicate how the energy may play out?
Also, I heard Saturn/SN conjunctions can be binding and I’ve heard they are separative? There are contrary opinions out there. What do you think?
@jenna
Can’t say how you will impact them without knowing the rest of their chart, and the rest of your synastry with them. But how they handle their NN (their future) will directly impact your relationships.
@Novlady
Your Saturn conjunct their SN and trine NN sounds positive…past lessons that can enable future progress. But it all depends how they handle their NN. Saturn/SN conjunctions can be binding at first, then separative. Depends on the rest of your chart and their chart. But it’s usually a heavy contact (especially for the SN person). Feelings of obligation.
@Shamiran
Sorry, but the amount of information you’ve presented here is simply too much for the limited space that these comment sections allow. The purpose of these comments, and my answers, is for me to provide very brief observations, not free readings.
No, not free reading (I put our charts up caus I don;t know how to read them/aspects) but just briefly the full moon aspect since I have –
NATAL
Saturn Pisces 10° 40′ in house 7
Chiron Pisces 17° 58′ in house 7
Ceres Pisces 19° 46′ in house 7
& PROGRESSED
Saturn Pisces 13° 41? in house 5 Pisces 10° 40?
Thank you so much for this “light”
… my love story, has something that I still would like to understand. Thank you.
He has Mercury squaring Nodes, I come with Venus and Uranus in conjunction with his Mercury (Mercury is ruler of 7th).
But what is intresting, he has Saturn on SN and i come with my Saturn on his NN.
About what these two Saturn talking there ?!? (His Saturn is the ruler of 2th, and mine of 8th)
I want to understand each roll in the life of the other … or my roll in his life, through Saturn.
(on the other side, he come with Venus on my NN. If counts, his ASC has an orb 10 gr with my NN)
The relation is unbeliavable, is so deply, but … He has to follow his old path ? I restrict him or I show him the new way ? Maybe I will understand until the end, but realy i don’t want to be an end 🙂
Thank you so much …
Sometimes I wonder if Ambiened sleep emailed you all my current charts to you, because just about every article you publish completely resonates with me and my relationship. The am the Virgo ascendant conjunct Manfriend’s South Node example. He is the one I had a relationship with 20 years ago. I absolutely see how much he has evolved towards his Piscean North Node. My Moon resides in the 7th house. It is too wide an orb to be a conjunction to my Descendant and his South Node. His Vertex Axis also conjuncts these axes and they are exact in orb. Astrology is sometimes so amazingly mindblowing.
Hi!! Thank you, very interesting.
I am currently in one of the most intense relationships I’ve ever been in (going on a year and 3 months now). I think neither of us have ever felt this “in love” with someone while also being super loving and supporting of each other with a deep friendship. The connection seems emotional, intellectual, spiritual, as well as physical–I would call it electric! However, it’s not without major conflicts (mainly around me consistently feeling intensely insecure and reaching out and him closing up and pulling back, etc. (usually happening at the same time rather than one of us causing the feel/act this way, but the results lead to some rare but really bad fights); it seems to always bounce back to something more balanced eventually after a few days. In his absence, I sometimes have a dis-ease that something is not right, but the minute I hear his voice, or see him, I feel like my emotions before were just blown out of proportion and I feel great (I should add that some of the tension is due to a recent and temporary long distance situation).
Anyway:
This is a bizzaro synastry and I don’t know what to make of it:
Me:
– North node in cancer in 1st house
My partner:
– North node in cancer in the 7th house (conjunct my ascendant; square my mercury in Libra, 4th house)
The angles don’t count for our north nodes to be in conjunct, but the the N/S house swap, in 1st and 7th no less, makes me think both north nodes being in cancer might be significant?!?!
Tangent (less important for you to comment on — just or context):
– My venus in Leo trines his mars in Sag
– My mars in Sco; his venus in Sco (though they are not conjuncting, makes me wonder if significant given it’s a mars-venus connection?!?!)
Hi nadia can you help me interpret my pluto ascendant in scorpio conjunct his south node and saturn. While my sun descendant in taurus conjunct his north node and sun. Please share your idea is this a karmic relationship?
Mr. Marquitz,How can one contact you dteicrly? There are issues of common interest I believe we can discuss as regards Damnation. I’d prefer to have your email address. Hope to hear from you soon.
My sun in pisces conjuncts his SN. My 5th house is virgo his NN. My ascendant conjunct his sun (gemini). And his ascendant conjunct my sun in pisces at extremely close angles. We keep seeing triple numbers together and apart. When were together 1111 comes up often. His venus is gemini. MY venus is capricorn. His virgo conjunct my 5th house. My mars is leo conjunct his 5th house. His moon conjunct my NN IN scorpio. My Saturn conjunct his SN. His mercury conjuncts my SN in taurus. My mercury is trine his venus venue and sun in aquarius. My Jupiter is opposite his sun in Sagittarius. It’s pretty intense and we dont need words to communicate often. I know its karmic between us but theres so much light and love and we don’t ever tell at each other. There’s lots of respect. I just want to know if this is projected to grow and to have a family.
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