We are all familiar with the reaction when someone says they have the Sun in Scorpio, but there are other less obvious ways the same energy crops up in natal charts. Those of us who have a strong Pluto influence (for example, a loaded Eighth House, Pluto in aspect to personal planets or Scorpio Rising) can also act a lot like those Scorpio Sun types. I will use an example from my own life to illustrate this . . .
I am a Libra Sun, Libra Moon person with Venus in Sagittarius in the First House. This translates as a pleasant, friendly sort with a charming manner. When I was young, it meant long blond hair, a casual sporty style and a breezy, easy going way about me – Sagittarius bait in essence! The catch is that I have Mars and Mercury in Scorpio conjunct my Scorpio Ascendant, with Pluto squaring my Mars. Throw in a Pluto sextile Moon aspect, and you have a Plutonian type. This meant the exterior was far different from what was going on inside. Now I could also project the Scorpio Rising pretty effectively too, notably when I was angry about something.
Sagittarians love the chase far more than the capture, and if you want to keep their interest, you just need to stay ever so slightly out of reach. There was one Sagittarius guy that was drawn to the Venus in Sagittarius style, and flirted with me like crazy when I was out partying with a girl friend. I found him equally attractive, so I came back another time and started chatting him up. The minute he got wind of the Scorpio intensity, he ran so fast all I saw were hoof prints in the dirt and the bushes waving from the breeze created by his departure.
The moral of this tale is this: If you have lots of Pluto aspects, a loaded Eighth House or Scorpio Rising, even if you are a sweetheart of a Libra, lighthearted Gemini, fun-loving Leo or some other harmless looking sort, you are not nearly the lightweight you appear. So don’t be surprised that when you unveil your natural intensity, you get a different reaction than anticipated. Oh, one other thing … if you are a Plutonian, it is a good idea to start working on accepting that side of yourself without prejudice and acknowledging you are one of the power-brokers of the Zodiac. There are plenty of rewards . . . = smirk=
About the Author
Neith AKA Diane Lang writes a blog on Synastry at Neith on Synastry, where she writes posts answering relationship questions from readers and does the occasional post on how the outer planets in particular affect our ability to relate. She also has another blog, Neith.net, which covers a broad range of topics relating to Astrology and her life. If you enjoy her style and are interested in having her take a look at your chart, she does written reports for a reasonable fee too.
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Comment below: Are you a Plutonic person? How does this aspect of yourself conflict with other elements of your chart?
scorp says
November 5, 2007 at 7:41 pmIm a scorp and am attracted to people with full 8th houses. My hub is one and my son too. My two best friends have packed 8th houses.
Having a sag rising and aquarius moon I think makes people see me as easy going.
Anonymous says
November 5, 2007 at 9:34 pmPluto is conjunct my ascendant so I notice people tend to fear me. I think I’m a lovely women and nice and helpful (Virgo Sun, Cusp Libra ascendant)but others naturally assume a fearful position first off. I guess I have a sort of “don’t mess with me” vibe or a sort of dark confidenceor air of mystery attached to myself automatically.
victoria says
November 6, 2007 at 4:58 amI really enjoyed the “Neith on Synastry” link provided here, her writing is delightfully insightful.
The comment on Venus conjunct Uranus really struck home. When I first discovered the Venus/Uranus/Pluto conjunction in my chart, I finally realized why I am a magnet for men who are extremely odd or unusual–absent-minded professors, erratic geniuses, crackpot composers–an assorted motley crew of oddballs in general. All loveable, all dangerous because of the power struggle involved with Pluto in the mix.
Revolving door is the perfect metaphor. These days I stay off the merry-go-round and with great relief; love leaves me dizzy.
Quentin Ergane says
November 7, 2007 at 9:45 amI’m a Libra cusp Scorp, but I think I am more a Plutonian/Mercurial person… that Pluto is in such a close conjunction with my Merc, they are almost the same! And yes, Mars squares them both.
My rising and moon are both in Gemini. I think I come across as light and bright, but I am SO intense. Always comes through, too, especially when I first meet people. I don’t know, I think I try to warn them as gently as possible… because people are either scared off or close off.
Like anon, I can create a shield of “don’t mess with me” but sometimes, the vibe happens whether I will it or not.
Anonymous says
November 7, 2007 at 4:26 pmI’m an 8th house Virgo with Sagittarius Rising and Mercury, Venus and Mars conjunct Pluto in the 8th/9th houses. Scorpio MC. Taurus Moon conjunct Jupiter in Gemini in the 5th. I look like a Venus-type and have the calm Virgo eyes, except they’re acid green, lol. As I really am a true nerd, I would have needed my own PR-representative if it weren’t for the fact that I almost without exception attract Scorpios, Virgos and (Sun-Pluto) Libras. And I certainly wouldn’t want it any other way:D When I was a little younger, I would attract Capricorn and Cancer men, too, but interestingly not a single one since the transit of Pluto to my Sun/Asc… LOL!
Allegra de Rossi says
November 8, 2007 at 9:39 pmHi I’m Allegra. I have Pisces Sun, Venus, and North Node in the 8th house. Sun trine Pluto, Saturn and Neptune semisextile Pluto, for the nice aspects (if any aspect involving Pluto can be called nice). Mercury square Pluto opposition Mars square Mercury in a nice angular T-square. Pluto square Leo Ascendant. I’m a Leo Rising, so Sun in the 8th house is my chart ruler. In other words, I am more Plutonic than most Scorpios.
I like to hide my Plutonian nature because I realize people don’t appreciate intensity as much as I do. I live for intensity in personal relationships, in casual relationships, in every day life. Pisces being masters of disguise I do this very well. Until someone messes up and causes the emotional fire in me to be released. Then they ponder if Pisces are actually the nice, sweet people they thought they were. Not this Pisces. I’ve got more squares to the 8th than 64 and more change than delta (I know you love my mathematical jokes courtesy of Mercury in Aquarius.)
Okay, now back to being happy Allegra. Yes, my name suits me perfectly 😀
Melvin says
November 9, 2007 at 1:48 amWhat does intensity refer to?
Allegra de Rossi says
November 9, 2007 at 9:35 pmIntensity meaning anything to a very extreme level. For me this is mostly on an emotional level. My emotions run very deep, and I feel extremely one way or the other. So whatever I do or say carries that extreme with it. When I am speaking to someone, for example, I usually feel very strongly about what I am saying and convey it in a very strong manner. People usually don’t understand why I care so much or think I am coming on too strong. But I can’t help but feel strongly about things that matter to me and I crave this kind of extreme in my life. However, most people do not want to “shake up the system” and thus relegate most situations and relationships to a very flat, superficial level. I don’t know if I’ve explained myself clearly enough, but its very hard to put in words. This is why I tend to gravitate toward Scorpios or those with a strong Plutonic influence in their chart. I can sense that they feel things similarly to myself and can understand and appreciate it.
Anonymous says
April 2, 2008 at 3:27 amah, you hit the nail on the head with pluto giving some weight. i’m a gemini sun and pisces moon which should make me a charming flake (and trust me, I have my moments)…except both square and oppose pluto, respectively. add pluto conjunct the MC, Jupiter, Uranus to the mix and suddenly little flighty gemini becomes the hypnotizing snake charmer indeed.
honestly, 38 years into all this & still don’t feel like I have a handle on all the light vs dark sides of myself.
byw, i attract scorpios like flies. they don’t stick around for more than a year, but nonetheless…
Blair Gorman says
May 2, 2008 at 8:37 pmPeople with Mars in the Twelfth House are often hiding a very
explosive or dangerous personality beneath a calm exterior. If you
have this placement of Mars you are probably a walking time bomb.
As your entire libido goes towards feeding your anger you may not
necessarily have a very high sex drive. You are more likely then
most people to die from a violent act or accident.
Blair Gorman says
May 2, 2008 at 10:03 pmIf Mars is in your Tenth House you are likely to have a military career. You need a profession that is an outlet for your
boundless energy and desire to have action. You feel strangled by a desk job and can be quite rude to authority. Others can find you
difficult to deal with, as you are arrogant and always fighting to
have your way.
Jeffrey Kishner says
May 3, 2008 at 3:19 am@Blair Gorman, some of your interps are fairly deterministic.