Taurus Robert Pattinson Gets Vampire-Sexy in ‘Twilight’
November 20, 2008 by Laura F. Walton
Ah, the sweet smell of young love and vampirism…. Get ready for it, because November 21 is the US-wide release date of Twilight, the much-anticipated film adaptation of author Stephanie Meyer’s young adult novels. The series centers on the forbidden love between the shy misfit Bella and the mysterious Edward Cullen, who turns out to be something other than your regular high school crush. Edward’s a vampire. Sexy, eh?
The role of Edward Cullen will be played by Robert Pattinson, who also starred in Harry Potter and The Goblet of Fire as Cedric Diggory. Pattinson (b. May 13, 1986 in London, UK, birth time unknown — view natal chart) is known as one of the hottest up-and-comings around the movie industry; he’s also a talented musician, and some of his music will be featured in the Twilight soundtrack.
A Taurus Sun and Cancer Moon, Pattinson has a lovely rectangle configuration in his chart as well. A rectangle is an aspect pattern that includes two oppositions joined by trines and sextiles, forming a distinctive rectangular pattern in the chart; it’s an indicator of exceptional talent and good luck, and Robert Pattinson seems to have a strong dose of both.
Pattinson’s rectangle involves his natal Moon (emotions,) Mercury (communication and self-expression,) Neptune (music, art, and drama,) and Pluto (power, depth, and charisma.) These four planets working in combination indicate a solid, colorful, and bright career in any of several arts-related fields. Astrologically speaking, he’s certainly one to watch.
For now, though, catch him in his current incarnation as the good-looking blood-sucker boyfriend.
About the Author
Laura F. Walton is a writer, artist, and arts instructor based in Texas. She has been a practicing astrologer for nearly ten years; she specializes in areas of sexuality, individuality, and creative self-discovery. She has contributed forecasts for print media, and currently provides monthlies on her blog Astro What?
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Jen has an interesting mini-post on why Robert is so “blabberifiic.”
I personally dont care to see ANY kind of chatter whatsoever about this movie. If anyone wants to promote it they are promoting the idea for girls that it is romantic to have the dark, mysterious dangerous boyfriend, to think she is the one woman strong enough to love him through the danger…., and her compassionate, graceful love will save that dangerous guy …the guy with the strong, unfailing exterior and the weak crumbling interior…
…the entire story line is based on the excitement of not knowing whether her dangerous dark love will love her back…or kill her…
i can pass on a phone number to anyone that thinks this is cool. You can live it real time.
Its not funny, nor exciting…nor romantic.
And to pass the idea on to teens that it IS any of these things is appalling. This is the “new cinderella” …. BAH!!!
I haven’t read the books. After reading a review by Laura Miller @ salon.com basically stating your case — and that it is not the next Harry Potter — I decided to pass. However, I have been intrigued by the almost self-loathing Pattinson displays in press interviews.
One can hardly blame him! This morning on the Today show girls were swooning over him, asking to marry him and asking if he was anything like his character in real life… he asked a girl WHY she would be attracted to that
she answered back “like, oh, i dont know…its just soooo dangerous! exciting!”
….even he must be sickened by girls’ attraction to that darkness. I just want to barf. The idea of being caught up in a relationship that you dont know if you will be loved … or killed… and that only YOUR love can fix it… that just perpetuates more icky stuff than I can fit in this tiny blog space.
I don’t know. I think the dynamics of their relationship are a bit more complicated than that.
Hee, just as I was going to ask if anyone else had any thoughts on his blabbermouthiness….
The main characters were on this morning talking about it. They say the essence of the movie is that he has a strong exterior and weak interior and she is there …the strong woman to save him…and all the while the question is will he love her or will he kill her. That was their interpretation of the movie. Below is the formal description from the website, and it says the same;
TWILIGHT is an action-packed, modern-day love story between a teenage girl and a vampire. Bella Swan (Kristen Stewart) has always been a little bit different, never caring about fitting in with the trendy girls at her Phoenix high school. When her mother re-marries and sends Bella to live with her father in the rainy little town of Forks, Washington, she doesn’t expect much of anything to change. Then she meets the mysterious and dazzlingly beautiful Edward Cullen (Robert Pattinson), a boy unlike any she’s ever met. Edward is a vampire, but he doesn’t have fangs and his family is unique in that they choose not to drink human blood. Intelligent and witty, Edward sees straight into Bella’s soul. Soon, they are swept up in a passionate, thrilling and unorthodox romance. To Edward, Bella is what he has waited 90 years for – a soul mate. But the closer they get, the more Edward must struggle to resist the primal pull of her scent, which could send him into an uncontrollable frenzy.
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Its not a complicated story. its a message that the girl can tame the dark guy…
Ashley, I can understand your objections to the movie; I’ve likewise experienced several forms of abuse in my life, and now head up an organization that fights violence against women in many forms. However, I also feel the urge to defend the fundamental myth patterns that humans use to make sense of the world, and the “dangerous man/yielding girl” myth is one of the oldest in our history. In my mind, it obviously reflects some real human experience that many people share, and therefore has merit, on any of several levels.
Astrologically speaking, what we’re dealing with is Pluto. Obssession, the underworld, the possibility of physical annihilation coupled with raw sexuality…these are real human experiences. Pluto is real, and his myths are very old.
Would you say the same about Wuthering Heights? About Yeat’s “Leda and the Swan”? About classical Greek drama or Grease? All of these are just reworkings of the original “dark man” dream…this is Pluto in action, and Pluto’s not necessarily nice, but something in us obviously responds, for better or for worse. Perhaps our responses to things like Twilight are outlets for an otherwise unhealthy urge; that’s one theory, anyway, and it’s at least three thousand years old. A hundred years ago or so, Freud called it thanatos, the destructive urge, and tied it inextricably to eros,/i> the creative urge.
I can totally understand your strong reaction, though, because I have it myself sometimes. Thanks for your thoughts!!
Lol, sorry for the total lapse of tag ability…
I am taking a class on dracula next semester!
Just a note, I feel like this is just too Hot Topic Vampire Goth for me.
I am happy that I still follow the old school ways, which sees vampirism as evil or at best (in the case of Barnabas Collins of Dark Shadows’ fame) as curse that one is tormented by, instead of this multi-decades long fantasy that vampirism is cool, sexy, or somehow a far better way to *live* because one *lives forever*.
I can’t see comparing any human relationship between and alive man and woman with one that essentially deals with someone who has succumbed or has joined willingly with demonic forces ( I suspect in this film the male is NOT trying to rid himself of his vampirism and thinks instead it’s a good thing).
I won’t be seeing this, just as I have passed on Anne Rice’s stories , Buffy the Vampire Slayer and any other of this kind in the genre.
Astrology wise it’s interesting for ME to note that even though I am a Pisces sun, Cancer Moon and Venus in Aries, I don’t find Taurus men sexy or attractive- not in looks, nor temperament- too slow in thinking and too prosaic, as well; I don’t know. I never have and they are supposed to be a great *match* for me.
However, the Plutonic style of self immolation of love and sex as the great leveler has a siren call to me- but it has to come from a Scorpio type- moon in particular- this is the bait that lures this fish every time! LOL
Laura,
Thanks for the post as it helps me to define my own objections to what is going on here; its not AS much the story in and of itself but the public reaction to it… the fact that teen girls are idealizing this as the ideal guy and the ideal love relationship…. Throughout the media you can see girls mobbing, crying, tearing their hair out, wanting to marry this guy… why? “because he’s dangerous” … because “dark is sexy” etc etc etc. Not about the actor but about THE STORY…and what he represents in the movie. Yesterday a fan actually asked the guy point blank if he was anything like his character in the movie (after saying she wanted to marry him) and specifically said she wanted him because he was dangerous. He sat there stammering.
The most disturbing part is the idea that this guy could kill her but that her love is going to save him??? I dont think thats a common popular myth … maybe im wrong but none come to mind.
It isnt sexy, and its very scary to perpetuate these myths. Just as I was raised on cinderella … no prince on a white horse ever showed up on my doorstep… i guess this one just disturbs me (1) because it idealizes DANGEROUS relationships and the idea that if a woman just loves a guy enough, even when the threat is she’ll die over it, that makes it okay and (2) yes, you are right…it hits too close to home. It is a real issue (NOT a myth) with domestic violence relationships and frankly i think this “myth” is the overriding belief system that keeps women in domestic violence relationships. What good comes out of perpetuating it?
The story I guess could even be fun and entertaining, even to someone like me who is sensitive to the issue, if it werent for the fact that it clearly is being taken by teen girls and translated into real life as the ideal love relationship…..and being done in MASS hysteria worldwide…. i think people need to ask themselves if they want THEIR daughter idealizing the idea that loving a dark guy into NOT killing them is a romantic idea? It certainly scares me.
UMMMMM wow people! So much anger, chill out!!!
How about this- a little imagination maybe? Can’t people enjoy reading a FICTIONAL story and using their imagination once in a while? Dang.
Why not maybe trying to view from other people’e perspectives as well? Did you ever think that maybe the author is trying to portray the fact that in spite of all the mean-spirited jerks out there, there are few that can and will love and respect a girl the way the character can? Despite his flaws. Maybe that can teach a lesson on not settling for anything less than a girl deserves when it comes to finding a real man and real love?
Oh, I forgot- most of you haven’t even read the book! LOL Can’t we all just get along???!!!
Something about this reminds me of Brando in Streetcar Named Desire — whose character Kowalski ends up raping his wife’s sister. Yet Stella is enthralled with his dangerous vibe.
And maybe this conversation is appropriate given that Pluto is changing signs. Maybe we’re ready to stop idealizing (Sagittarius) violent, domineering behavior (Pluto).
Ooh Jeffrey
Have I missed a post on this somewhere? I’d love to read on it.
Trish you are missing the point. Totally And even more scary….agreeing with the premise of the movie ….. that a girl can love a deadly dude and that love can be “real” with him despite that pesky little compulsion to kill her….
It would be a nice fluffy world of puppies and butterflies IF the masses of screaming teen girls LEFT it as fiction…just enjoyed the movie and walked out of the theatre or read the book and put it down and joined reality. They arent. This has become mass hysteria for teen girls worldwide…, and the twilight character (who isnt real) idealized as someone hot and sexy and worse….someone they all want to marry. The character. Not the real life actor. It is the hysterical attraction to the dark and danger and how love conquers all…. it is watching him being translated out of the story and into reality that is disturbing….
And you translated the author’s “lesson” to us all to be that this dude has this tiny little flaw (ie a compulsionn to kill) AND because he loves and “respects” the girl (however overwhelming his desire to kill her which by the way is kind of not respectful)….that makes him better than a “mean spirited jerk” and therefore we can believe in true and real love. I’ll take a mean spirited jerk. A guy that is mesmerizing and dark like this, and devotedly loving while wrestling with the compulsion to kill….thats a psychopath.
Also..not settling for less? I want my own daughter to settle for someone that loves her…but doesnt want to kill her. Its mixing the idealism with love WITH the dark and dangerous that is yucky in here.
You translated the lesson exactly in the manner that I am saying is disturbing. Again, if you want a guy like this, i can pass on a phone number for ya. They exist in real life.
Vampires exist IRL?
hehehe Jeffrey. .. of course .I didnt mean that but now that you mention it….. its metaphorical but yes!!!!!
I did have a line in there somewhere that said replace the word vampire with abuser…and then you’d get real life…. i deleted it somehow…
Vampirism is a metaphor, and a metaphor can be read several ways. Maybe instead of “abuser” it can be “someone who is so hungry for love that he sucks your life force out of you.”
There are psychic vampires. My mom sure as hell feels like one, in exactly the way that Jeffrey describes it. (God knows I got raised to be one as well, but I figured out in my 20’s that needing constant attention drives people away, and I stopped.). I keep hoping she’ll find a new boyfriend and go bug him for attention
I have Sun on the descendant and she has the moon on the descendant, so… I think that’s probably an aspect of psychic vampirism, right there.
there ya go! i was trying to think of ONE word but that works!
Jeffrey is there a post on pluto somewhere? I thought i saw one a while back but read into it that there would be more discussion coming…
might be fun to have you do my chart in the near future…huge changes happening
ashley, I don’t have anything on the blog about Pluto entering Capricorn. I’ve recently written a piece for one of the larger non-bloggy sites, but I don’t have a link yet. I’ll post it when I do. But it’s more political than relationship oriented so I’m not sure how much it will help.
Of course there’s a whole page on Pluto, just not on this ingress….
Hey i posted a similar post on this subject on another board where people deal with abuse.. i just thought i’d post this one response to show you all the other perspective im coming from…
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When I first read this post, I thought, “well, this is a bit extreme…”
I’m a Twilight fan, and I was looking forward to seeing the movie.
My (abuser) just “exposed” himself to me and the rest of our world about 7 weeks ago. When I sat through that movie last night and saw it with new eyes, all I could think of was the original post.
This movie absolutely does make abuse seem not only acceptable but beautiful. It broke my heart to watch all of these young girls look at Edward as a hero, when in truth, he’s a monster.
Stephanie Meyer has Pluto trine a Venus-Jupiter conjunction in Aquarius. Idealized (Jupiter) love (Venus) of dangerous types (Pluto).
To each his own Ashley. Some people like danger. They like edge. And can handle it.
Once a situation turns from thrill to abuse those with strong self-esteem can exit.
Keep your boring, defanged harry potters and give me a vampire!
Hey, both of you — let’s just agree that (a) physical/sexual/emotional abuse is widespread in relationships; and (b) this is a movie/book onto which people can project many different experiences, and everyone has a right to read into them whatever they want.
OK. Jeff. You’re right.
I’ve moderated out some previous comments to keep the conversation civil.
I know the series, I liked it though I don’t consider it overly ambitious literature (I have Neptune Mercury to get away with it, ha!).
First thing, it’s hard to discuss this phenomenon unless you actually read the books.
It’s not completely as it seems.
REMINDER: We are talking about a FICTIONAL story here. Imagination. Not real. Characters. Get my drift guys?
People can determine any message they want out of a story like this- there is no wrong or right (Ashley), it is personal opinion.
Update: Patrick Watson has written about Pattinson and Stephanie Meyer at the Celebrity Astrology Blog. Key points: Pattinson is undergoing a Neptune transit to his Sun (projection!) and that Meyer’s inspiration coincided with several eclipses.
i’ve always been totally into vampires. just as fiction, irl i dont believe in psychic vampires or the whole fashion-cult thing.
i tried to read twilight but as i flipped through it at the bookstore all i read was blah blah blahh. it was so corny and cloying i had to put it down. i’m very sensititve to a novelist’s tone of voice and Meyer’s had that literalism that when translated from idea to literature doesn’t suit my personal tastes. like she idealizes her characters too much and the whole thing is disney minus the personality.
vampires are edgy..but what i can like about a PG version like Rice’s Interview with a Vampire (one of my faves ever) is its idiosyncrasy. Twilight didn’t have that to me, the characters unsympathetic, uninteresting. no bite.
i LOVE True Blood on the other hand. to me that has all the elements of an amazing vampire story. unique, edgy, characters u can connect to.
while i have a particular soft spot for vampire stories, i should correct that True Blood is amazing tv for *any genre. it is all you want in entertainment, and i’ll see for literature as i’m going to start reading the books.
Thanks for the link love Jeff! We just added you to the blog roll on our site. Keep up the good work.