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	<title>Comments on: The Astrology of Kink: Virgo, the Fallen Angel</title>
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		<title>By: No-Twitch Tabitha</title>
		<link>http://sasstrology.com/2008/08/astrology-of-kink-virgo-fallen-angel.html/comment-page-1#comment-54743</link>
		<dc:creator>No-Twitch Tabitha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article. 

I&#039;m curious...I&#039;m a Sun conj Saturn in Leo, Scorpio Asc, Pluto in Libra in love with a Virgo whose Moon and Lilith are conj my Pluto (his Sun and Merc are conjunct my Merc in Virgo; his Venus is in Leo - but it has no contact with my Sun nor Saturn). We connected first as friends and it progressed quickly (I say quickly - 2 months).

From the moment he and I declared ourselves, our communications and expressions of love have been quite intense (which isn&#039;t a huge surprise with that Moon-Pluto and Merc-Sun-Merc connections). He tells me he has never felt for another woman the love he feels for me and that he couldn&#039;t see himself falling for anyone else ever again (I don&#039;t doubt his sincerity). My Sun-Saturn makes me wonder what exactly it is that I did to bring this out in him, but that&#039;s another story.

My question is, what role does his Lilith play in this? I can understand from the above comments that he is responding to me as a woman, but is it because his Lilith is adding that dimension and more intensity to our connection?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m curious&#8230;I&#8217;m a Sun conj Saturn in Leo, Scorpio Asc, Pluto in Libra in love with a Virgo whose Moon and Lilith are conj my Pluto (his Sun and Merc are conjunct my Merc in Virgo; his Venus is in Leo &#8211; but it has no contact with my Sun nor Saturn). We connected first as friends and it progressed quickly (I say quickly &#8211; 2 months).</p>
<p>From the moment he and I declared ourselves, our communications and expressions of love have been quite intense (which isn&#8217;t a huge surprise with that Moon-Pluto and Merc-Sun-Merc connections). He tells me he has never felt for another woman the love he feels for me and that he couldn&#8217;t see himself falling for anyone else ever again (I don&#8217;t doubt his sincerity). My Sun-Saturn makes me wonder what exactly it is that I did to bring this out in him, but that&#8217;s another story.</p>
<p>My question is, what role does his Lilith play in this? I can understand from the above comments that he is responding to me as a woman, but is it because his Lilith is adding that dimension and more intensity to our connection?</p>
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		<title>By: Mountain Goat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mountain Goat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oooohhhhh thats why virgos get  nasty at the most unexpected times, dualty who would of thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oooohhhhh thats why virgos get  nasty at the most unexpected times, dualty who would of thought.</p>
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		<title>By: sg</title>
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		<dc:creator>sg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 22:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey, well im glad im not the only one :0)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey, well im glad im not the only one :0)</p>
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		<title>By: LibraLady</title>
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		<dc:creator>LibraLady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats sad SG, 
I never got that far with the only Virgo guy I went out with either, LOL But we were just kids then in our early teens, He was cruel to other girls that liked him, so I told him he was a jerk.... The sad thing is he was nice to me, but seeing him treat other people so mean like that made me angry. I do hear all the time about how virgo guys are busy all the time, its amazing how many women in love with a Virgo say the same thing.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats sad SG,<br />
I never got that far with the only Virgo guy I went out with either, LOL But we were just kids then in our early teens, He was cruel to other girls that liked him, so I told him he was a jerk&#8230;. The sad thing is he was nice to me, but seeing him treat other people so mean like that made me angry. I do hear all the time about how virgo guys are busy all the time, its amazing how many women in love with a Virgo say the same thing&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: sg</title>
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		<dc:creator>sg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@libralady.. thats funny !!! lol i didnt get that far, hes frustrated the life out me, not very forward,and too busy :-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@libralady.. thats funny !!! lol i didnt get that far, hes frustrated the life out me, not very forward,and too busy <img src='http://sasstrology.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: LibraLady</title>
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		<dc:creator>LibraLady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do Virgo guys like to seduce or be seduced? Whenever I used to think of a Virgo guy in the bedroom I picture a  shy boylike man that lost his pants and cries that you can see him, after reading this its nice to have a different picture :) LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do Virgo guys like to seduce or be seduced? Whenever I used to think of a Virgo guy in the bedroom I picture a  shy boylike man that lost his pants and cries that you can see him, after reading this its nice to have a different picture <img src='http://sasstrology.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  LOL</p>
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		<title>By: sg</title>
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		<dc:creator>sg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about Pisces N Virgo in the bedroom ?!?!?!
i think i read one article 24/7 turn on  ( a pisces woman an virgo man !) Yes ! cannot wait !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about Pisces N Virgo in the bedroom ?!?!?!<br />
i think i read one article 24/7 turn on  ( a pisces woman an virgo man !) Yes ! cannot wait !!!</p>
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		<title>By: Rayshawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rayshawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent article.  My Virgo man has a Scorpio rising and Gemini moon.  I am an Aries woman with a Cancer rising and Libra moon.  Our sex is crazy hot!  He has that kinky side going on (ex. water sports, lactation...) and his porn collection is like nothing I have ever seen before.  I am pretty sexually open and experimental.  There is almost nothing I have not tried.  I wanted to trade my life of sexual excitement for something more sustaining and stable.  Virgo man knows how to help me reach optimum functioning in the bedroom - he holds me and caresses me while we are lying in bed, I am able to gaze up at him as we do this...I love feeling that I am in his (Scorpio power).  My Cancer rising responds well to this.  With the foundation laid for intimacy, he is very rough and dominant with me...and the Aries side of me flourishes under such conditions.  This is my second Virgo guy...and the sparks just fly!!!  I&#039;m glad our physical relationship is so awesome...the way we relate emotionally...meh, not so much!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent article.  My Virgo man has a Scorpio rising and Gemini moon.  I am an Aries woman with a Cancer rising and Libra moon.  Our sex is crazy hot!  He has that kinky side going on (ex. water sports, lactation&#8230;) and his porn collection is like nothing I have ever seen before.  I am pretty sexually open and experimental.  There is almost nothing I have not tried.  I wanted to trade my life of sexual excitement for something more sustaining and stable.  Virgo man knows how to help me reach optimum functioning in the bedroom &#8211; he holds me and caresses me while we are lying in bed, I am able to gaze up at him as we do this&#8230;I love feeling that I am in his (Scorpio power).  My Cancer rising responds well to this.  With the foundation laid for intimacy, he is very rough and dominant with me&#8230;and the Aries side of me flourishes under such conditions.  This is my second Virgo guy&#8230;and the sparks just fly!!!  I&#8217;m glad our physical relationship is so awesome&#8230;the way we relate emotionally&#8230;meh, not so much!</p>
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		<title>By: Lucky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 00:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What kind of affect would a Virgo woman, who&#039;s Mercury and Lilith is also in Virgo have on a man who&#039;s South node and Vesta that&#039;s in Virgo, and is in opposition to the woman&#039;s Moon and North node?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Also, is the use the Feminine exclusive to women? If not, I&#039;m also interested in the role the sixth house may play in this equation with Pluto residing therein.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As far as bisexuality and gender reversal being a keyword, that&#039;s pretty much been a no-no, even with Virgo women, however I&#039;m very attracted to women who stand up for themselves - a quality I&#039;ve noticed in most Virgo women as well Capricorns and Scorpios.&lt;br/&gt;I guess you could say that I&#039;m bisexual to the extent that I acknowledge my &quot;feminine side&quot; (or &quot;anima&quot; if you&#039;re into Jungian psychology) and strive to bring it into equilbrium with my masculine self, but I believe that&#039;s called androgyny. Other than that, I&#039;m strictly heterosexual. I will note that a few Virgo women in my life were either bi or bi-curious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What kind of affect would a Virgo woman, who&#8217;s Mercury and Lilith is also in Virgo have on a man who&#8217;s South node and Vesta that&#8217;s in Virgo, and is in opposition to the woman&#8217;s Moon and North node?</p>
<p>Also, is the use the Feminine exclusive to women? If not, I&#8217;m also interested in the role the sixth house may play in this equation with Pluto residing therein.</p>
<p>As far as bisexuality and gender reversal being a keyword, that&#8217;s pretty much been a no-no, even with Virgo women, however I&#8217;m very attracted to women who stand up for themselves &#8211; a quality I&#8217;ve noticed in most Virgo women as well Capricorns and Scorpios.<br />I guess you could say that I&#8217;m bisexual to the extent that I acknowledge my &#8220;feminine side&#8221; (or &#8220;anima&#8221; if you&#8217;re into Jungian psychology) and strive to bring it into equilbrium with my masculine self, but I believe that&#8217;s called androgyny. Other than that, I&#8217;m strictly heterosexual. I will note that a few Virgo women in my life were either bi or bi-curious.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura F. Walton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura F. Walton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 17:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Lucky! I&#039;m going to give you my take on Lilith, though mine is a little different-- I hope a few others comment, too.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Lilith (Black Moon Lilith, anyway) is not a planet or physical body; it&#039;s a mathematical point in the chart. I do work with Lilith, but only in a specialized way: the point doesn&#039;t do anything at all unless it&#039;s activated, preferably by an actual conjunction in a synastry.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This Lilith point represents solely feminine power, the kind of power that makes for femme fatales, for uppity women, and sometimes for fatal attractions. If a woman&#039;s Sun falls in conjunction with a man&#039;s Lilith point, for instance, he will tend to have very intense reactions to her-- often, he sees her as the most irresistable seductress on earth, but sometimes he sees her as a &quot;Whore of Babylon&quot;-type figure. Whatever the reaction, it&#039;ll be strong, and it&#039;ll be directed at her specifically &lt;i&gt;as a woman&lt;/i&gt;, not as just another member of the human race.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In a woman&#039;s chart, if someone else activates her sensitive Lilith point by conjunction, she&#039;ll have to confront her own female-specific power through that relationship. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Otherwise, in my experience, Lilith just sits dormant. The sign in which Lilith is placed colors its effect somewhat-- it has to do with the manner in which a person experiences the female-specific power-- but sign and house placement is not as important in a natal reading as that of the actual bodies. Even the smaller asteroids have more of a constant effect than Lilith does.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;However, when your femme fatale encounters are operating, they&#039;ll be somewhat Virgo-colored. Some possible keywords: bisexuality and gender reversals (especially if you&#039;re predominantly monosexual most of the time), health-related issues (especially those related to vulnerability, or &quot;savior/caretaker&quot; dynamics), and definite service-related roles. I don&#039;t know what your personal gender/sexual preference is from your comment, but I&#039;ll venture this: when your Lilith is activated, you&#039;ll find hints about the nature of The Feminine through service to others. How does The Feminine (as an energy) use service as a means to control situations? What responsibilities come with that sort of power? How and when do you use it, and for what ends?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Probably too much information, lol, but I hope it helps....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lucky! I&#8217;m going to give you my take on Lilith, though mine is a little different&#8211; I hope a few others comment, too.</p>
<p>Lilith (Black Moon Lilith, anyway) is not a planet or physical body; it&#8217;s a mathematical point in the chart. I do work with Lilith, but only in a specialized way: the point doesn&#8217;t do anything at all unless it&#8217;s activated, preferably by an actual conjunction in a synastry.</p>
<p>This Lilith point represents solely feminine power, the kind of power that makes for femme fatales, for uppity women, and sometimes for fatal attractions. If a woman&#8217;s Sun falls in conjunction with a man&#8217;s Lilith point, for instance, he will tend to have very intense reactions to her&#8211; often, he sees her as the most irresistable seductress on earth, but sometimes he sees her as a &#8220;Whore of Babylon&#8221;-type figure. Whatever the reaction, it&#8217;ll be strong, and it&#8217;ll be directed at her specifically <i>as a woman</i>, not as just another member of the human race.</p>
<p>In a woman&#8217;s chart, if someone else activates her sensitive Lilith point by conjunction, she&#8217;ll have to confront her own female-specific power through that relationship. </p>
<p>Otherwise, in my experience, Lilith just sits dormant. The sign in which Lilith is placed colors its effect somewhat&#8211; it has to do with the manner in which a person experiences the female-specific power&#8211; but sign and house placement is not as important in a natal reading as that of the actual bodies. Even the smaller asteroids have more of a constant effect than Lilith does.</p>
<p>However, when your femme fatale encounters are operating, they&#8217;ll be somewhat Virgo-colored. Some possible keywords: bisexuality and gender reversals (especially if you&#8217;re predominantly monosexual most of the time), health-related issues (especially those related to vulnerability, or &#8220;savior/caretaker&#8221; dynamics), and definite service-related roles. I don&#8217;t know what your personal gender/sexual preference is from your comment, but I&#8217;ll venture this: when your Lilith is activated, you&#8217;ll find hints about the nature of The Feminine through service to others. How does The Feminine (as an energy) use service as a means to control situations? What responsibilities come with that sort of power? How and when do you use it, and for what ends?</p>
<p>Probably too much information, lol, but I hope it helps&#8230;.</p>
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