Acting as my own astrologer, I cast my own charts for the moment when I finally say, aha, maybe a chart would answer this. Even if I’ve been thinking about the issue for days. There’s always that moment where I realize astrology might help.

If someone says, “I cast a horary chart for my own but I’m stuck in my analysis,” I use the chart they cast.

>> Ms. Karen/Proserpine, you’re most welcome! Please call me Christine. Email me at seduction@askchristine.info if you have more questions after reading this insanely long comment.

++ Does the Horary chart show you only where he and she are at *now* or, does it truly answer her question that he wouldn’t be likely to reciprocate even if she showed her interest in him outwardly now?

>> It shows both. The horary chart is a snapshot of time. It’s a single frame of the movie, at a single location. It can show diagnosis and prognosis; current state and future direction. It all depends on what is asked.
This chart tells me where he and she are at now by showing me what the planets are doing now. Also, by looking at where each person’s significators are going in the sky and how they relate to one another, it shows me if the guy’s attitude will be changing or staying the same. It shows me if he’s going to start liking her more, or in a different way, or not at all.

++ I’m wondering if the chart showed in the way it did only because, at the moment the question was asked, he was ‘not looking her way’ so to speak.

>> The chart is uniquely linked to the question. It shows what is true of the situation as it is.

++ Or is it that since you chose the 7th Hs for him *as if* he was her lover now, it shows the truth for them if lovers?

>> If she were just asking “Will my friend like the gift I bought him?” or something, we’d use the 11th house. But she wants to know, “Is this person relationship material and does he like me that way?” So we have to use the 7th.

++ I thought of that–except we stil don’t know unless and until she would show him she’s interested romantically.

>> This chart doesn’t show, “He really likes you so you’d better speak up.” It doesn’t even show, “He really liked you until recently and now he’s given up.” In horary astrology, it is actually possible to figure out either of those answers… or the actual one, which was, “He doesn’t reciprocate your feelings.”

++ I do get that you said probably nothing she did would have made a difference anyway–but exactly how do we discern that?

>> We discern that by consulting a table of Ptolemaic dignities. It shows the essential dignity of each planet in the chart: its strength or weakness. It also shows how each planet likes or dislikes the other planets. This concept is completely foreign to most modern astrologers, but without it, my work would be impossible. I recommend John Frawley’s book The Horary Textbook for its excellent explanation of how it works.

++ And question 2–I understand Jupiter rules Pisces, (and only Jupiter centuries ago), but Neptune as co-ruler wouldn’t be considerd, too, *now*?

>> Right. Leave Neptune out of it. In this system, it does not play the role that modern astrologers have attributed to it.

++ Thank you in advance for any answers you may give me.:-)

>> Thank you for taking the time to comment!

Proserpine

@Anonymous: I am so pleased you got so much out of the reading. Thank you again for asking and for this feedback!

About the Moon and Jupiter interaction, the part about neither planet being comfortable in its sign rings true. This guy is a loyal, reliable friend– the guy who should have “lifeboat” written on his forehead– and I’ve been desperate to cry on his shoulder and be comforted by him. Me being vulnerable is not my favorite role. Natal Sun Sag, Moon Leo (in 8th, along with Sat Leo), with Mars in Sag on the Asc and Pluto conj MC. Ven in Aqu rounds out the picture nicely.

And he, on the other hand, has been working hard to change a lot of old, unhealthy habits lately, esp. on the relationship front. When he told me recently about how he’s trying to “do the new relationship the right way,” which includes not indulging in PDA with his gf, I raised my eyebrows and said, “Is there only one right way?” (inwardly thinking, “You’re a giant teddy bear. How can you not hug your woman in public??”) He replied, “Well, I’ve done all the wrong ways already!” He is quitting smoking, quitting drinking, quitting everything all at the same time, and mentioned in Dec. that he was tired of one-night-stands and “dumb girls”, and wanted more serious relationships. So I know the interpretation of him going through self-directed change is spot on. His natal Sun in Cancer and Sag Moon have been like catnip to me, but I’ve been feeling unsure of whether I could handle getting what I think I want anyway. As they say, beware of what you ask for…

Well said about not focusing on the potential for change “when one has suffered enough”– the Piscean Venus and Merc certainly know how to pine away in unrequited love! Thanks again!

Thanks for explaining that about the Moon and Jupiter…

Why do you add the Sun to representing him again (along with Jupiter)?

Would Sun in the 7th in Aries have been good? It would have been a different chart, certainly, and probably would have produced a different response. But the Sun wasn’t in the 7th. We use the chart we have.

I do indeed look to the ruler of the 7th. That’s Jupiter in this chart, and it represents the guy in question.