He Said, She Said: Pisces woman wants to pursue famous actor
March 28, 2008 by Jeffrey Kishner
He Said/She Said features a love advice question answered by professional astrologers Jessica Shepherd of Moonkissd and Jeffrey Kishner of Seduction Central. After they each provide their perspective, they combine their insight to offer advice they both agree on.
D.R. Millenium writes,
My counselor tells me that when it comes to men, I seem to running away to ones I could me and towards ones I can’t. I thought about this long and hard and decided that I just want a different reality- it may be a 7th house thing. The chart of the man is of an actor, a famous one but I’d like to get to know him as a person- all the while respecting his sense of privacy, space, time, constraints all that. I admit to feeling a strong attraction, but also I am afraid to say it, i sense a connection- perhaps we share some of the same cultural history growing up in the same era. I want to know the proper way to pursue meeting or at least contacting this guy with success. I believe that some of us in the outer world are really nice folk and aren’t crazed fans. He as a capricorn has life lessons I feel he could teach. He’s got a start up IT business too and I respect a go getter! I myself am learning medical coding. He can’t give me material things but rather and only those things in his persona that he as a man uniquely posses. I’d love to be advised as to how to pursue, albeit with respect and tact oh and what are my chances with such a suspicious scorpio moon as he ’s got. I’m thinking of writing to Oprah Winfrey for advice in the regard to do this properly with respect to him- do you think it’s foolhardy? Thanks again ! D.R.
He Said:
Everyone runs in their own circles, whether they’re astrologers or famous actors. This doesn’t mean we don’t make contact with outsiders, but we do need to share similar values and experiences to make a connection. You and the actor were born in the same year, so you do share the same cultural history, as you said. You both have Water-sign Moons (yours in Cancer and his in Scorpio) and yin Suns (your in Pisces and his in Capricorn). Your Cancer Moon is in a tight opposition with his Capricorn Sun, which suggests a potentially deep connection.
But these factors may only explain your feeling of resonance with the actor. After all, one of the reasons famous actors become and stay famous is that they are good hooks for our projections, our fantasies. This actor has a First House Neptune — planet of image and film — within five degrees of his Ascendant. People see what they want to see in him. And you’re quite Neptunian yourself, with an imaginative Pisces Sun trine natal Neptune.
OK, so I’ve established that he’s good fantasy material. But you want more. I won’t say that successfully courting him is impossible, but here’s my realistic assessment:
- He probably has millions of fans swooning over him.
- With a Capricorn Sun and Scorpio Moon, he probably will be suspicious of anyone who tries to get close to him. He’s got cash — how does he know a woman wants him for something other than the trappings of fame?
- Have you looked at his Wikipedia entry? What if he has a girlfriend?
That being said, probably the most tactful way to make contact is to send a letter expressing your admiration of his work and offering a reflection of what you may have in common, coming from the same generation. And leave Oprah out of the picture.
She Said:
To read Jessica’s response to the same question, visit Moonkissd — then read They Said for their bottom line advice!
To submit your burning love question, email Jessica with “he said, she said” in the subject line, or complete Jeffrey’s form.
They Said:
Take a step back and explore the power of your fantasies and projections. Famous Actor may not be as accessible as you hope, no matter how tactfully you approach him. There are many cool guys — who share your background and orientation towards life — in your own neck of the woods.
Jeffrey and Jessica are available for astrology consultations. Check out their respective websites for details.
Related post: Do Pisceans want what they cannot have?
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Please tell me the actor is Jason Bateman…no one else is worth it.
DR, I’m lcose to your age.I do’nt think it’s a stupid thig to have a feeling about this guy, the Capricorn.But consider this–if you and your therapist are discussing that you go for men that aren’t for you, and run form those that are–have you thought that perhaps this is the same thing?
The actor isn’t so attainable.He mightor might not be what and who you think he is.
If indeed you sense a connection–it still might never happen.
Why not come doen to earth and figure if you met someone great, if you don’t OK–but don’t pin your hopes on a star.
I need to make 2 responses. First to both astrologers, thanks so much for your responses. I guess with, for all its worth, Capricorn jumping my 1st house, I was thinking I would be dismissed as silly and no response would be coming. I plan to take the advice seriously although the pain of not really being able to reach and make contact will be for me truly a deep wound that will take time for me to heal from, since the interest in him as a person- again in his own right is very strong.
I am continuing: I have no interest in pursuing the Brad Pitt of my neighborhood- I never did and it’s not a crush, but although that comment hurt my feelings, since you don’t know me that well, of course you would think this way. The only thing I will do is this. There is a fan base with a message board that although it does say silly things, he has a relative there that states that he does read it from time to time. I think there is where I will do as Jeffery said- put out that respectful thanks for his talents especially at being true to being a Capricorn go-getter persona that I really admire.
My apologies on taking 3 responses LOL!
I don’t plan on saying anything silly or outrageous, but when I’m less emotional and say, new moon is in Taurus I WILL write my note of appreciation properly there and leave the rest to the *gods* as they say- for me about him it was never about the fame per-se, I respect that, but inner qualities, both good, bad and otherwise are what I respect and what caught my interest.
I plan to work on dealing with my own chart as it relates to love, relationships and the Piscean/Neptunian problem.
I also will look for a local, very lay oriented, just everyday folks theatre group that I can join to do things like get coffee, pass out papers etc; for. I think I like the actor/artistic temperament-perhaps a Capricorn is there waiting for me to become acquainted with, but I won’t force that spark I need to ignite an interest- as I understand my Venus in Aries it’s either there or it isn’t- I can’t just force it to be.
Lastly, thanks to you both about revealing his Neptune in the 1st house. That tells me a lot about him- I can study his chart on my own that way and I’ll enjoy it very, very much.
And to angelineelise: no It is isn’t Jason Bateman… sorry, I’m not revealing WHO it is LOL….
@D.R. Millenium — “Act locally, fantasize globally.”
Can we guess who it is? Is it David Caruso?
Act Locally, Fantasize globally? Jeffery- I guess pain and a deep feeling of loss of not being able to do something you’d like to do and being thought of as half crazed to boot doesn’t really matter! No one is kind… actually, I’m thinking that in the real life whatever that is, I’m going to Ireland and the UK to seek out that intense persona, marrying a foreigner was always an ideal I had.
In addition I wasn’t exactly fantasizing, you see, I have an elderly friend, one of my very best friends, whom I’ve known for almost 20 years whose birthday is today and she knows Mel Gibson, another Capricorn that is my age. She has known him and his father on a personal basis;for many years she has written to both for many years more than 20 in fact, because they belong to the same Traditionalist Catholic group.
Religiously, Mel and I have common grounds. We went down the same religious roads as far as seeing Vatican II as a betrayal of everything we had been taught to believe and we rebelled against the Church wishing for things the way they were. I could have contacted him if I wished to years ago, but I had no desire to.
Now, my friend is no Hollywood insider by any means. To me, my Uranus in Cancer in the 7th house to me means one can maybe achieve a different reality- the reality is certainly NOT looking for money as a gold digger or a sugar daddy. That’s NOT what I wanted from this man, but rather being able to make contact, what the world says is normally impossible to do. I know full well he could lose his looks,fame AND the money, but he’d still have his character, his integrity and what’s in that character are the qualities that I sought to know in him. I felt if my non rich, non Hollywood minded friend could do it, why NOT me? At least writing to that column, paying my proper respects to him as Jeffery suggested, I hope that new moon in Taurus is a good time to do it, I’ll know I’ve tried anyway.
To anon: I’m still not revealing it…who it is- if Jeffery didn’t want to compromise his privacy, I sure am not. D.R. Millennium sorry I couldn’t remember my password..
“Act Locally, Fantasize globally? Jeffery- I guess pain and a deep feeling of loss of not being able to do something you’d like to do and being thought of as half crazed to boot doesn’t really matter! No one is kind.”
I am not sure what you meant my this, but I want to assure you, DR. that Jeffrey always comes from a sincere place…and his quote applies to many who read this blog.
I really admire the piscean spirit to put yourself out there and go for what you REALLY want in life..It’s utterly brave and romantic…and many people feel the same.
I just wanted you to know because I sense a defensiveness in your previous post!
We live in a world of infinite possibilities…you’re in my positive thoughts!!
Yes, I was a bit hurt-I mean I felt like I was being seen as an airhead and a gold digger to boot.
I believe that you take a man for what he IS and not what you would have him to be- you try to encounter and deal with him that way and offer that to him without artifice, because character is all that is really of true worth in the end…
Thanks, angelineelise. Actually, I think it springs out from me this way. My Venus in Aries gets the spark, the interest, the drive to know the person, while Mars in Sagittarius gives me the courage to put on those Saggie 7 league boots and STRIDE forth and ahead. It’s those 2 things other wise my cautious Cancer moon would put on the breaks and do nothing…but when that spark is lit… I go for fire all the way….
I at least have to try- if I know I tried, even if I don’t succeed, I’ll know that I gave it my best effort then I go on and try to heal (inside joke for Jeffery ha ha ha… I wonder if my outrageous side is my Aquarian part or not? Hmmmm )Still D.R…
DR and anyone who identifies(are DR and one of the anonymous posters two different people or the same?
Anyway—how could what anyone said here be seen as saying you’re a gold digger or airhead.No one said that.Certainly not what I think.That must be what you fear, because no one said that.
Knowing someone famous is not impossible, no.I know people who are friends wiht a rock star or actor also.If I had the same desire as yourself to meet one of them I could too.But why?
For one thing–that’s it-common ground, having somehting in common,a club, a relgion, a career–but not just in general,the same religion or whatever–I mean *if* you both attended the same church school, etc being around the person naturally–that’s what makes the difference.
No one said it was silly to have a thing for someone famous, or that you want his money or fame for selfish reasons, I didn’t think that.
What might be working against your plan to change your old habits and problems is that you *don’t* know this guy so you don’t know if he’s someone you’d really love.
To me, it’s quite plain.
Your therapist says you don’t seem to be interested in appropriate or available men, and interested in those who are not–well–if you knew this actor maybe he would be appropriate for you, maybe not.
But you don’t know him, so he is not really available to you, he’s way far out there in a sense.He’s a maybe, a dream lover.
I don’t want to hurt your feelings at *all*, butI believe you’re a person who respects straightforwardness, and truth and so I’m saying– I think you’re not seeing the forest for the trees.This seems to me anyway, and I could be wrong–the same pattern as being with an unavailable guy.
When someone said try the Brad Pitt in your neighborhood, they didn’t mean because he was famous or goodlooking, but look for someone who is just as wonderful as your actor love–but closer to home, and to you.
In the end you have to do what’s best for you–no matter what anyone else says–so please do pursue this if you really want to.
I’m just answering what I get from it.
As I said (and I’m really NOT 2 people here- I truly forgot my password and I’m too weary to set up another- I apologize and thank goodness I remembered). I am working on the dysfunctional ism behind this and I am slowly beginning to make some progress; it’s just that local for me includes Europe and not just my State and city of origin, that’s all… As I said, groups, artistic groups and such locally will be a good place to start to seek that temperament, that scorpionic intensity that I seem to need and be attracted to. I don’t mind pouring coffee, handing out papers- I sure won’t be on stage LOL.
Thanks for all that everyone’s done and hope that Jeffery doesn’t find me too, too too odd (another insider thing…) Bright Blessings to all.
I sure hope I find out if FP loved Speedracer as I did when I was 12 in 1968 but knowing Capricorns, he probably put his childhood behind him.