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		<title>By: Olivia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Olivia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 03:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Moira,
I was ready the article and found it very interesting also. 
I&#039;m no astrologer but I figure I give my opinion on your boyfriends Venus Oppose Saturn. 
•The 6th house deals with his everyday routines,his work,his health, even pets. His Venus is in that house. He finds enjoyment in that house. (He&#039;s probrably good with his hands too) wink wink
• The 12th house is a very subjective, house. All that&#039;s hidden. Secrets, prisons, institutions, etc. Authoritive Saturn is there. Karma. 
.....Hope that helps. 
P.S. I found out personally its hard loving with Venus in Hard Aspects to Saturn. Lack either Maternal or Parental love. 
My ex has Venus in Scorpio square his Saturn in Leo. My Venus and Saturn are in Leo!!
One way to explain that chemistry: I hate that I love you! Smile!


Olivia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Moira,<br />
I was ready the article and found it very interesting also.<br />
I&#8217;m no astrologer but I figure I give my opinion on your boyfriends Venus Oppose Saturn.<br />
•The 6th house deals with his everyday routines,his work,his health, even pets. His Venus is in that house. He finds enjoyment in that house. (He&#8217;s probrably good with his hands too) wink wink<br />
• The 12th house is a very subjective, house. All that&#8217;s hidden. Secrets, prisons, institutions, etc. Authoritive Saturn is there. Karma.<br />
&#8230;..Hope that helps.<br />
P.S. I found out personally its hard loving with Venus in Hard Aspects to Saturn. Lack either Maternal or Parental love.<br />
My ex has Venus in Scorpio square his Saturn in Leo. My Venus and Saturn are in Leo!!<br />
One way to explain that chemistry: I hate that I love you! Smile!</p>
<p>Olivia</p>
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		<title>By: Moira</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 02:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello there !

Great comments on Venus opposite Saturn !
My boyfriend has this aspect, with Venus in Gemini
(6th house Venus, 12th house Saturn).

Any ideas what this means?   
Thanks a zillion !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello there !</p>
<p>Great comments on Venus opposite Saturn !<br />
My boyfriend has this aspect, with Venus in Gemini<br />
(6th house Venus, 12th house Saturn).</p>
<p>Any ideas what this means?<br />
Thanks a zillion !!!</p>
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		<title>By: Chitti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chitti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 12:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a happily married woman. I was in love before marriage. I am a taurus and he was a Scorpio. He also liked me. When i proposed him he acepted partially butdenied later.I need to know why it has happened and will i talk to him in future just as a friend?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a happily married woman. I was in love before marriage. I am a taurus and he was a Scorpio. He also liked me. When i proposed him he acepted partially butdenied later.I need to know why it has happened and will i talk to him in future just as a friend?</p>
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		<title>By: Rataplan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rataplan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 20:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just imagine PLU making a kite with NatNorth Node and NatCHI and NatVEN.  Fantastic pyrmide from the side with support from NatJUP. (NatNorth Node/NatMOO/ NatSUN !!/ and NatNEP.  There’s a small link with NatJUP. This NatJUP could potentially be part of a grand trine. I wouldn’t be surprised as the NatMOO is involved. That has got to attract NatJUP to her. So, we have a Grand Trine with NatURA/NatJUP/ NatMOO/ NatMER/ NatMAR. You want more what exactly? Maybe it has enough to contend with the T from NatPLU/NatMOO and NatSUN. NatNEP links these two with a TRI to NatSUN@21_14ARI (for the T) and a SQR with NatMER and NatMAR, Then you have the North Node. Mmm it does place a lot of your planets into the R-hand side of the chart. I can see why now. I’d look out for strong visits, when VEN and SAT comes past NatPLU.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just imagine PLU making a kite with NatNorth Node and NatCHI and NatVEN.  Fantastic pyrmide from the side with support from NatJUP. (NatNorth Node/NatMOO/ NatSUN !!/ and NatNEP.  There’s a small link with NatJUP. This NatJUP could potentially be part of a grand trine. I wouldn’t be surprised as the NatMOO is involved. That has got to attract NatJUP to her. So, we have a Grand Trine with NatURA/NatJUP/ NatMOO/ NatMER/ NatMAR. You want more what exactly? Maybe it has enough to contend with the T from NatPLU/NatMOO and NatSUN. NatNEP links these two with a TRI to NatSUN@21_14ARI (for the T) and a SQR with NatMER and NatMAR, Then you have the North Node. Mmm it does place a lot of your planets into the R-hand side of the chart. I can see why now. I’d look out for strong visits, when VEN and SAT comes past NatPLU.</p>
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		<title>By: marsey</title>
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		<dc:creator>marsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 18:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeffery, is this true (see below)? In order to work-out saturn/venus opposition one has to love the cold-person? How does one love someone who ignores their needs?&lt;br/&gt;********************&lt;br/&gt; did read recently somewhere that to get over this saturn/venus confliction, one must just love the saturn person (the cold person). To be honest, this seems true, but I wish I could always remember this!?!&lt;br/&gt;Well, if you have this affliction, there is no &quot;getting out of it&quot; and so, diving right in, this, I avow right here, that I will pledge to TRY with my heart to do this. There will be a possible forgetful day - but I am going to go w/this advise and just see where it takes me? (Maybe just loving them anyhow, sets off some &quot;karma&quot; that we have and also - saturnian energy, in general, is very loyal and committed, and so, maybe it will possibly help this to grow so that the Saturn meets up with the Venus and then there is committment AND love - nice idea huh?!) - opposites can balance (180 degrees?!?!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeffery, is this true (see below)? In order to work-out saturn/venus opposition one has to love the cold-person? How does one love someone who ignores their needs?<br />********************<br /> did read recently somewhere that to get over this saturn/venus confliction, one must just love the saturn person (the cold person). To be honest, this seems true, but I wish I could always remember this!?!<br />Well, if you have this affliction, there is no &#8220;getting out of it&#8221; and so, diving right in, this, I avow right here, that I will pledge to TRY with my heart to do this. There will be a possible forgetful day &#8211; but I am going to go w/this advise and just see where it takes me? (Maybe just loving them anyhow, sets off some &#8220;karma&#8221; that we have and also &#8211; saturnian energy, in general, is very loyal and committed, and so, maybe it will possibly help this to grow so that the Saturn meets up with the Venus and then there is committment AND love &#8211; nice idea huh?!) &#8211; opposites can balance (180 degrees?!?!)</p>
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		<title>By: BalancedSag</title>
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		<dc:creator>BalancedSag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 19:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, nicely said.  As I have the opposition, my ex had the saturn/venus (and jupiter)conjunction; and he WAS obviously unconscious of it. Does this mean that they end up w/less pain about it?  Or just as much, but later, when they are finally conscious of it.  And if they are not conscious of it - do they not really feel that &quot;lack of love&quot; and inablility to quite reach it quite the same way?  What would they be feeling, then, if they are uncounscious of it?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, nicely said.  As I have the opposition, my ex had the saturn/venus (and jupiter)conjunction; and he WAS obviously unconscious of it. Does this mean that they end up w/less pain about it?  Or just as much, but later, when they are finally conscious of it.  And if they are not conscious of it &#8211; do they not really feel that &#8220;lack of love&#8221; and inablility to quite reach it quite the same way?  What would they be feeling, then, if they are uncounscious of it?!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Kishner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Kishner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 19:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@curious, Saturn conjunct Venus would have similar issues, but here&#039;s the difference with conjunctions, as I understand them: although both planets are &quot;unified&quot; (especially when conjunct in the same sign, meaning that their expressions are congruent), there can be a &lt;i&gt;blindness&lt;/i&gt; in the native regarding how the aspect plays out. With a square or opposition, one is &lt;i&gt;forced&lt;/i&gt; to be conscious, because the conflict is right in one&#039;s face. With the conjunction, it&#039;s like if you have poor peripheral vision, you may not even notice what&#039;s right next to you. There&#039;s more of an Aries type innocence (I use Aries because Aries:conjunction as Libra:opposition), implying a lack of awareness of the aspect&#039;s impact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@curious, Saturn conjunct Venus would have similar issues, but here&#8217;s the difference with conjunctions, as I understand them: although both planets are &#8220;unified&#8221; (especially when conjunct in the same sign, meaning that their expressions are congruent), there can be a <i>blindness</i> in the native regarding how the aspect plays out. With a square or opposition, one is <i>forced</i> to be conscious, because the conflict is right in one&#8217;s face. With the conjunction, it&#8217;s like if you have poor peripheral vision, you may not even notice what&#8217;s right next to you. There&#8217;s more of an Aries type innocence (I use Aries because Aries:conjunction as Libra:opposition), implying a lack of awareness of the aspect&#8217;s impact.</p>
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		<title>By: BalancedSag</title>
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		<dc:creator>BalancedSag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 16:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have Saturn in 1st opposing my Venus w/in 1 degree in Scorpio in my 7th.  I have 4 planets in 7th, so this is not an issue but my father- definitely was never available emotionally (until I was out of the house - then, I learned there are miracles, because we have a great relationship now!!!)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I have, yes, usually been in relationships where there is that brick wall, namely, Saturn, and it creates such dificulties (just had it out this morning over this very thing w/my bou - but at least ended it w/love).  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I did read recently somewhere that to get over this saturn/venus confliction, one must just love the saturn person (the cold person).  To be honest, this seems true, but I wish I could always remember this!?!  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Well, if you have this affliction, there is no &quot;getting out of it&quot; and so, diving right in, this, I avow right here, that I will pledge to TRY with my heart to do this.  There will be a possible forgetful day - but I am going to go w/this advise and just see where it takes me? (Maybe just loving them anyhow, sets off some &quot;karma&quot; that we have and also - saturnian energy, in general, is very loyal and committed, and so, maybe it will possibly help this to grow so that the Saturn meets up with the Venus and then there is committment AND love - nice idea huh?!) - opposites can balance (180 degrees?!?!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have Saturn in 1st opposing my Venus w/in 1 degree in Scorpio in my 7th.  I have 4 planets in 7th, so this is not an issue but my father- definitely was never available emotionally (until I was out of the house &#8211; then, I learned there are miracles, because we have a great relationship now!!!)</p>
<p>I have, yes, usually been in relationships where there is that brick wall, namely, Saturn, and it creates such dificulties (just had it out this morning over this very thing w/my bou &#8211; but at least ended it w/love).  </p>
<p>I did read recently somewhere that to get over this saturn/venus confliction, one must just love the saturn person (the cold person).  To be honest, this seems true, but I wish I could always remember this!?!  </p>
<p>Well, if you have this affliction, there is no &#8220;getting out of it&#8221; and so, diving right in, this, I avow right here, that I will pledge to TRY with my heart to do this.  There will be a possible forgetful day &#8211; but I am going to go w/this advise and just see where it takes me? (Maybe just loving them anyhow, sets off some &#8220;karma&#8221; that we have and also &#8211; saturnian energy, in general, is very loyal and committed, and so, maybe it will possibly help this to grow so that the Saturn meets up with the Venus and then there is committment AND love &#8211; nice idea huh?!) &#8211; opposites can balance (180 degrees?!?!)</p>
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		<title>By: kora</title>
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		<dc:creator>kora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 18:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Venus is squared Saturn and my love life is/was disastrous!&lt;br/&gt;Why? Hmmmm....;)&lt;br/&gt;Sun/Mercury/Neptune in the 7th..&lt;br/&gt;relationships are immensely important to me though I idealize and depersonalize my loved ones till I fall by the wayside, disillusioned and disenchanted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Venus is squared Saturn and my love life is/was disastrous!<br />Why? Hmmmm&#8230;.;)<br />Sun/Mercury/Neptune in the 7th..<br />relationships are immensely important to me though I idealize and depersonalize my loved ones till I fall by the wayside, disillusioned and disenchanted.</p>
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		<title>By: curious</title>
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		<dc:creator>curious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 07:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about Venus conjunct Saturn?</description>
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