Do you love your man for his Venus?
January 2, 2008 by Jeffrey Kishner
Many women don’t want to put with a guy who doesn’t appreciate her Mars, whether she likes to spar or play Halo. We are no longer confined to rigid fifties era gender roles, but people vary in the degree to which they successfully integrate their masculine and feminine selves. I’ve written elsewhere about men’s ability to be with their feelings, suggesting that guys are still raised to choose the rational over the emotional. The article was a reaction to a woman’s comment on this blog about her Cancer boyfriend’s crying. If women want to be embraced for their masculine tendencies, shouldn’t men be embraced equally for their feminine sides?
The feminine planets
There are two planets that symbolize the feminine: the Moon and Venus. Crying would fit under the Moon. This celestial body relates to the instinct to nurture, to belong. The Moon governs habits, instinctual responses, what makes us feel comfortable. Some lunar qualities don’t really correspond to gender, yet others — like “mothering” and having a strong feeling life — are traditionally feminine. In a man’s chart, the Moon may signify the wife.
Venus signifies the young woman to whom a man is attracted. But this planet is much more than that. In addition to governing relationships, Venus is all about charm, compromise, the ability to attract and seduce. This planet also relates to our values and preferences — what we love. Venus is an “art” planet, and often a prominent Venus will correspond with artistic or musical talent, as She rules aesthetics, beauty and graceful form.
No doubt, a man who exhibits grace, manners and charm can be quite attractive (think Libra, which is ruled by Venus). Yet, via our cultural definitions, when does a man’s Venusian side get characterized pejoratively as feminine? Homophobia is still widespread, and combined with sexism, a man’s limp wrist or exquisite fashion sense may be seen as less “manly.” Witness the metrosexual craze a few years ago, when a hetero guy got manicures and spent $200 on jeans. Just by virtue of taking care of his looks, doubt was cast upon his sexuality. Some women find this hot, yet others are attracted to a “guy’s guy.”
The devaluation of the feminine
We still live in a patriarchy, in which men have more power (and hence value) than women. Hence, it may be more “OK” for a woman to get a black belt in karate or play World of Warcraft than for a guy to get a facial and spent lots of money on hair products, or for a boy to go to ballet class. I (Sun, Mercury and Venus in Pisces) have always gravitated towards fields that are dominated by women: literary magazine in high school, counseling psychology in grad school, astrology later in life, expressive dance throughout my adulthood. And as “valuable” as literature, education, social work and the arts are, they don’t pay. Big business and engineering do. Do you see a pattern? If teachers hold the key to our children’s futures, why are their salaries so low? Could it be because they are predominantly women?
Nurturing and beauty, the Moon and Venus. Men need both, but they detach themselves from integrating these archetypes, choosing instead to get their lunar and Venusian needs met through women — going for trophy wives, arm candy (objectification of women) or looking to their wives and girlfriends to “mommy” them instead of finding ways to express their own nurturing and aesthetic impulses.
So, the question is: What are women’s attitudes towards men who are able to integrate these qualities, even if it makes them apparently less “manly” according to our rigid cultural stereotypes? And is this just an “American” thing? Please share your thoughts below.
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Sadly, I have this double standard. I like guys that can be sweet and sentimental, toss me an emotional bone here and there…but the minute he starts crying, about “us”…HUGE turn off. He can cry over a loss of a family member, cry over something emotionally painful, perhaps get teary eyed when the relationship is over, shows he cares…but don’t cry cry over “us”. TURN OFF
To me that appears like he’s emotionally unstable and relies too much of his happiness on me.
As long as he’s not wearing a dress and wears Calvin Klein and not Chantilly I’m cool. Oh yeah, makeup is a deal-breaker too.
“a man’s limp wrist or exquisite fashion sense may be seen as less manly”
if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck . . . you can bet your bony banana its a duck
quack quack
@Victoria, so I take it you don’t like peacocks.
@badnoozbetty, so I take it you don’t like ducks.
I gotta admit it: I like feminine men. I like a guy who can express his feelings and doesn’t mind being sweet and charming. Crying is not a turn-off for me. Confidence is a plus (confident and feminine are not mutually exclusive features), but I’m okay with it if they’re not quite so stable. I never understood why women were attracted to the aloof guys and the a******s.
I don’t like being dependent on other people, especially men, for anything; I don’t like the feeling of needing people to cheer me up, needing people to fix my mistakes and clean up my messes, as though I’m incapable of taking care of these things myself. I like the feeling of being the master of my own needs and emotions. I gave Men’s Men a shot, the guys who revel in their masculinity like pigs in mud, and nothing was a bigger turn off than being expected to be dependent on them.
So I gave that up and now I pretty much exclusively date feminine guys. I adore Venusian men, guys who can tap into a sense of culture, who like music and literature and art and good food. You’d be shocked how many straight Venus-ruled men there are in this world, and how much they need to be told that hey, just be what you want to be, it’s cool.
Sounds good to me
Still I like a guy who’s big and tall with large feet and hands, and a deep gruff voice. A beer-drinking gas-guzzling grizzly bear who knows how to dance up a storm and works till he drops. And wears a shirt a tie to the office every day.
Okay I know I want too much. But so does this kind of man . . . I might have to share him
That dude has a big cup, cute puppie dog look tho, I like it when men show feelings and cry its attractive shows they have empathy, the only thing that’s a stinger is when the guys switch quickly from macho macho man to sensative you hurt my ego thing and they lash out at you like a little boy thorwing a snow ball you think you can dish it out at them then they give you the cold emotional sholder. Ms. Diff
I DON’T KNOW QUITE WHAT TO SAY, MOSTLY BECAUSE YOU ARE LOOKING AT ROLES AND THE VALUE PLACED ON THEM , USING THE SAME CONCEPTS THAT WE OLDLINE FEMINISTS DID IN THE ‘70′S. IT’S A VERY ODD DEJA VU TO EXPERIENCE. NO,OF COURSE WE DON’T VALUE OUR MEN FOR THEIR VENUS’. NOT AS A SOCIETY. EVEN SOMEONE LIKE ME, WHO DOES CLEARLY KNOW BETTER, SOMETIMES I CATCH MYSELF. TESTS SHOW BOTH MALES AND FEMALES TAKE PHYSICAL AND BEHAVIORAL CUES TO CHOOSE A MATE WHO WILL ENSURE THE SURVIVAL OF OFFSPRING, AND THE ‘CUES’ ARE VERY MARS/VENUS IN NATURE. WHAT TO DO? I DON’T KNOW EXCEPT CALL OURSELVES ON IT WHEN WE SUSPECT WE’RE DOING IT.
HEY ANONYMOUS DO YOU YELL THAT LOUD ALL THE TIME?!?
Victoria, my Scorp does all of the above you listed…except he wears uniform to work! Talk about a big YUM factor. You know, his Moons is in Libra and Venus in Capricorn so I would like to know WHERE the sensativity is because he doesn’t have a bone of it in his body!
“As long as he’s not wearing a dress and wears Calvin Klein and not Chantilly I’m cool. Oh yeah, makeup is a deal-breaker too.”
If a man plays dress up, that’s HILARIOUS (my aquarius moon). Shows he likes to have humor. But if he’s MY man, I’d be more afraid of what the SOCIETY has to say… (south node in Libra?)
I mean, shucks, I usually pick the feminine artistic guy. NEVER been with the alpha male. Never ever. All that I’d dated were very neptune-y.
Should I go date some Mars-archtype now? Maybe I should. Maybe I should be man-handled.
Can’t say I care much for peacocks of the male variety, but cocky roosters can be worse
cock-a-doodle-dooooooooo!!!
at 5 am in the freaking morning (please let me sleep already)
I’ve done the gambit, been with aries’ caveman (enjoyed it for what it was..)to men who tend to get emotional when things get to them (pisces,scorpio). I have to say that I enjoy men who are expressive…in which ever way they choose to be. Unfortunately I sometimes don’t have the emotional depth my husband does (moon and venus in Aqu. I get all analytical) but I have to understand this is the way he FEELS and I cannot pick away at that. I tear apart his logic, his arguement to me, but I cannot tear apart his feelings-something he risks humiliation by showing. I must say I respond to a man being “venusian” with his emotions rather than throwing things, screaming, or picking more fights with me(those fire signs will remain nameless!). I think we live in a mans world in general but it doesn’t mean that I have to make MY world a man’s world. Trust me, I’ve had to support men,I got sick of it, but it didn’t make me feel any worse than depending on a man. I like to shower men with gifts, and I tend to normally take the dominant role of the relationship…I think it takes a stronger man in society to accept what a woman has to offer than the opposite, especially when it’s physical (clothes, jewelry)! But every relationship has a balance…even behind closed doors…a giver and a reciever…feminine and masculine..sometimes at the same time! God bless anyone challenging gender roles! Great Post!!!
This is a perplexing question because I have looked at my past with this a lot (the “philosophical” Sag in me). I have noticed that I definitely get really close and bonded with a venus/talking/communicating type of guy, and then end up with a mars/masculine type somehow instead EVERY TIME.
Maybe its that I am a fire sign and the masculine type of guy (cave man) moves that fire in me more. It is not always worth it though. The water in me (scorpio) ends up feeling soooo neglected (like right now, for example!!).
When I was married, the guy I was with for 11 years was such a macho (another Sag like me) that he swore he would never even get sick (and he pretty much didn’t!!) and he acted like he could do everything and he pretty much did!! He took care of me and my 2 children like anyone would dream in the sense that I got to be an at home mother for 9 years, something many people (if they want it) don’t get these days (I did work part time the last few years) and he made sure that he ALWAYS was the MAN in that we always had our needs met(basic, we weren’t rich or anything but…) he would work all day and then come home and still help out, give me “down” time etc.. cook often, etc… get up early and scrape off my car for me before leaving at 6 a.m., and then coming home at 6 p.m….). So, if I have to pick between this kind of manly man and someone who can “communicate” – its a tough one, really, it is nice if you don’t have to choose, because communication was something that was lacking (and created the big OOPS that ended it all)but to be with someone who crys that they will get cold and sick if they go out in the snow?! Well, I never knew that I would find that so pathetic, but I do.
If a man crys about his feelings, though, that is beautiful (ie- my ex used to still have a tear coming down at a good movie – even though he really tried to always act like a complete macho).
Its probably like what anyone with a libra moon would say; it needs a balance. A guy really should be able to “suck it up” sometimes, to show that he can do what it takes to help his loved ones… and yet still have some sensitivity. If they want to be really sensitive and so forth, that is appealing and wonderful, as long as they still can do their part in the relationship, which usually consists of having to be strong at certain points (even a girl who is very venusy and sensitive has to show strengths (her mars) too at certain times – even if its “strength” is something as simple as being strong enough to blow off any other cave men around and hold her delicate heart for her one and only dear one.
I’m with Angelineelise where I do tend to play the manly role, shower my love with gifts. I’ve been told by all my guy friends I’m “one of the boys”. They even do the whole “boy” handshake with me. I like to be dominated, but at the same time, I have a power struggle with ones that are controlling. Yet I like that control, makes me kind of feel wanted? WTF is wrong with me?
I want him to show emotion cuz of course I need that damn security being a Cap. Yet, at the same time, if he cries over us, at least early on in the relationship, and IIIII’m the one leaving him, wow…talk about making me walk away even faster.
Give me deep passionate love, love me to death. Just don’t cry about it…sorry.
I’m with Angelineelise where I do tend to play the manly role, shower my love with gifts. I’ve been told by all my guy friends I’m “one of the boys”. They even do the whole “boy” handshake with me. I like to be dominated, but at the same time, I have a power struggle with ones that are controlling. Yet I like that control, makes me kind of feel wanted? WTF is wrong with me?
I want him to show emotion cuz of course I need that damn security being a Cap. Yet, at the same time, if he cries over us, at least early on in the relationship, and IIIII’m the one leaving him, wow…talk about making me walk away even faster.
Give me deep passionate love, love me to death. Just don’t cry about it…sorry.
I grew up with three brothers– Two Tauruses and a romantic adored by all lady’s man–a Libra with Scorpio. My father is a Pisces. I am a gem sun sag rising with an Aries Mars and Moon. Guess what? I am weak for the sweet, intelligent shy sometimes nerdy guy. I abhor sex/romance with fire sign men. I don’t like indelicate or aggressive consummation unless I know and trust you with the deepest faith.
My first love was a triple Aqua, my spouse of 17 years a gemini with an difficult Leo stellium. My true love is a Pisces Sun/Mercury with Libra Moon and Aqua Mars/Venus.
My deal? I have a Taurus Venus. I have a crazy sexual appetite (Aries Mars and Moon trine Uranus 8th house) but am extremely feminine and rarely more than assertive in love matters. Hard to believe with the Mars Aries markers.
I instinctively trust sweet kind men, soft quiet men who long for love. I like to feel protected. Cryng? Ny husband and I cry at the same movies. I like that. The man I love most–the Pisces is also Cancer rising and we spend muchof out time sharing storeis about cooking.
ducks? nuh uh
penguins and roosters and all those foul(fowl?) feather friends not my cup of tea no way
chicken*hits are the worst
oh yeah and stool pigeons are really gross when they *hit splat your windshield
gimme a real man who cries in the closet and brings home the bacon
I must say this comments thread has made me laugh ALOT
As I said in the post regarding my own Mars, I like a guy that can like me for being a tomboy.
What I ended up with is a guy with Cancer Sun/Mars/Venus conjunct. And, thank the powers of the Universe, Moon in Sagittarius. He is a loving, mothering, caring – though not mushy and definitely not feminine type of guy. Whether he’s denying his Venus, or embracing his sports and adventure-loving Moon, I don’t know, but I do like the result.
Let me just note that I grew up without a mother (mine died when I was 9) so it’s hard for me to connect mothering to feminine, but his type of mothering doesn’t come across as that at all. He cares and nurtures, but that’s him, not something I associate with a female trait.
As much as I am a tomboy and enjoy sparring, and typically male things, I don’t like a guy who is too macho. I’d prefer they meet me in the middle, be as feminine as I am masculine without sacrificing our common ground. That way, we have balance.
I happen to be one of these women that falls into the double standard. My boyfriend of three years of whom we have INSANE chemisty…like off the charts, has Venus in Leo and Mars in Aries and Moon in Taurus. His raw sexuality of which he can be totally unaware of is breathtaking. His body is built like a boxer. And he is a Gemini Sun too born the same day as Prince and holds with him that same raw sensuality that Prince has. Women flock to him. He is sweet and loving. He is gentle and listens to me. No, he doesn’t cry easily and he’s not all that romantic with flowers etc. But his black hair, full lips and big sensitive eyes plus his tattoos and earings, and his mysterious appeal is addictive, sexy and yes… somewhat feminine -He is a Venus man all the way. Yet he can be reserved beyond belief making him that much more mysterious. ANyway, my point… he is sensitive and soft, yet burly and strong. THat Gemini duality. And sometimes as much as I am drawn to it I fear his softer side thinking he might be bisexual. He laughs when I’ve mentioned this to him. He doesn’t get mad though. He is that strong in his sense of self. And I know I am just falling prey to society and history not the reality of who he is. I think men who are in touch with their Venus side make the best lovers, fathers and friends.
to the valkyri lady
thats good real good stuff and real nice to hear cause its true thats for sure i wish i had a man like that
is that your man there singin that cool song about his boys wontever be the same again since you met his girlfriend
you sound like a culturetype woman with good brains please write more
Anon with the 3 year smouldering relationship a few comments up. I feel a bit like the old lady in “When Harry Met Sally” wanting to order one of what you are having!! What more can a gal want?
I am completely for fairness! I think men should be allowed to be WHO THEY ARE regardless of what is “feminine” or not.
My DREAM guy is one I would describe by his appearance, then you can maybe imagine his insides:
Wearing a pink shirt, a kilt, barefoot, with a mohawk, dark eyes, tall.
There he is. The pink shirt cause he’s sensitive, and with the kilt because he knows he’s a man no matter what he wears! The barefeet are cause he doesn’t really give a damn and he’s Nature in the flesh. The mohawk because if you tell him to conform, he will just tell you to piss off. (one of those shaggy mohawks, those are hot)
I love a man who can cry. I think this “no cry” s**t is not only American, buy we got it from the British…though the Germans are up to it also.
The Italians, Turks, Greeks, and probably French too, have a completely diff. outlook on this crying business.
I will facilitate and encourage ANY kind of expression MY MAN wants to put out. ANYTHING. I even told my ex-hubby once that if he ever found out he was bisexual or something, to let me know and I would be cool with it….even consider arrangements for him to fulfill needs I couldn’t quench. Imagine how I confused this straight Capricorn, hhahaha!
But, in conclusion, YOU EVIL WOMEN! IF YOU WON’T LET HIM JUST BE HIMSELF, THEN GET IN THE KITCHEN BAREFOOT AND MAKE THOSE BABIES! NOW! NO JOB FOR YOU! IN FACT, QUIT VOTING TOO! GRRRR!
I like sensitive men, actually.Yes, I do like a man to want to protect me, I admit.But I will prtoect him too.I don’t mind crying if he’s not a whiner.
) to the 50s when you hear stuff like “going to second base”, or the word “sex” menaing only intercourse!If that isn’t rigid and 50s what is?
I do think we’ve moved back (retrograded back?,
Nothing wrong wiht a guy that can cry sometimes.
Sometimes the older we get we can handle other’s “stuff” more–when I was younger I was afraid of someone else’ even appearing needy, because of my own.In other words it was more of a projection.
Ayla..I saw you comment–good for you!U would have loved my exhusband.He worked in the fashion industry.
proserpine
Any man looks good in a suit. An Armani suit. I don’t care how much Venus he has going on, or Mars for that matter. Or how big his equipment is. Just give me a man in a suit with a clean haircut and some hair on his chest.
Appearance counts, image is everything, and the other stuff is what keeps you together. You have to get together first. And for that, he needs a suit.
canta man be very venus if not super venus w/out being femmey. maybe it could make a guy ‘feminine’ or maybe it could just make him more the attractive, self confident, impassive type of guy rather than super aggro.
to be honest being overly mars for either sex always strikes me as hyperviligant as if the person lacks true confidence and self assurety so they go at life like a crazed terrier rather than having the cool poise or easy athleticism of a hound or sporting breed.
that is the extreme case. there is a large spectrum in between where men like women can fall w/respect to venus-mars that isnt too too one or the other and that is variety gracas à deus.
yup i agree suits are fab. by far my fave outfit for a man. of course, a guy can work it with an edge think a la david beckham the venusian bend it like this, Taurus extraordinaire. he has metro a bit in the past but i dont think most people question if he is masculine, like a true child of venus, madame, he can have it all.
I love you Bis! Brilliant! In that very unique and entertaining “bis” way
I adore the crazed terrier metaphor. LOL. My neighbor had one once. Very annoying.
mwah, mwah, ciao bella mia!!
=)
im glad the terrier resonates, i dont want to sound like a breedist – of course there are lovely terriers lol, but we know how some can be..the “killer” type.
What if the man has Moon in Aries? Lets say he’s a sensitive cancer but has a moon in Aries. Would he just be sensitive, and aim for a very dominant woman?
@bluegrass, He’d experience a conflict between his self-identity as a somewhat conservative, nurturing, sensitive guy AND being emotionally brash and impulsive. He may well be attracted to Aries-type women.
A word about alpha males:
In many cases in the animal world this hold true…
Tha alpha male is only that because he is allowed to “do” the alpha female
@anon
And sometimes as much as I am drawn to it I fear his softer side thinking he might be bisexual. He laughs when I’ve mentioned this to him. He doesn’t get mad though. He is that strong in his sense of self. And I know I am just falling prey to society and history not the reality of who he is. I think men who are in touch with their Venus side make the best lovers, fathers and friends.
This is such a great statement. My bf has well integrated “female” planets. He has tons of water and nearly all of his planets are in feminine signs. He’s sensitive, he has depth and he is my best friend. Yet there’s this horrible duality of wanting a masculine and sensitive man, then projecting that societal fear that he might be gay if he’s too sensitive. As an Aries Sun, Merc and Venus, I have had to train myself to stop looking for myself in him…he could easily say that I am too masculine and fear that I am gay! With Venus in Virgo, and Mercury in Libra, he is incredibly tactful, courteous and polite. He often demonstrates more of the “feminine graces” than I do. I tend to be aggressive and I lack tact and sensitivity.
All right…first to give you some astrological facts about myself:
Sun in Capricorn in 2nd house
ASC Scorpio
Venus conjunct Uranus in Sagittarius in 1st
Moon in Aquarius in 3rd
Mars in Libra in 11th
Now I’m ready to confess:)…I just adore androgynous, effeminate, Neptune-colored men!…I’m attracted to that sensitive soul/romantic poet / rock-star ideal (think Byron of XXI century
…I love them for their fragility, sensitivity and empathy…Being able to cry is a plus:)
It’s not that I think all men should be like that, it’s just that I don’t notice macho alpha male types at all, I find their kind of sexuality repulsive and aggressive…Which is in the end all a matter of taste, isn’t it?
I guess it’s my Mars in Libra’s fault-as it would symbolize “weaker” men…and VE0UR gave me the preference for the unusual…
I haven’t decided on a dream guy and it’s probably not a good idea because you’ll never really know who comes into you’re life – dreams are like that; they come and go on their own. It’s a lot more suprising and fun. I don’t have any preferences except that I don’t want to “mommy” him (The last guy has his venus in Cancer and surpringly it just didn’t work out). I’m actually attracted to a lot of types of people (maybe this is my Libran nature to like everyone). One day I’m falling heads of a heels at a passionate Scorpion in the business field (I wish I could look crisp in a suit), then along comes a mellowed out Virgo with a jam band.
I would much prefer a guy to cry to please me, it really works on my emotions, and makes me feel safe. If we’re watching a movie and I see him tear up, I have to say I am impressed by it. I do happen to be a modern girl though, maybe not all gals are like me. My Mars sign is in Gemini opposite Neptune.
I actually like feminine qualities in guys.
They need to look like a guy but I’m attracted to guys who are different in a sense that who they are as a person sort of doesnt conform to those expectations of how they should be. And I’m just turned on by feminine guys (who still embody the masculine) I dont know what that is. Thats a huge turn on
One more thing:i get turned on by gay guys (theyre just much hotter usually), make up, cross dressing unless its too believable, guys with long hair, emotional guys, sensitive types, i don’t like pessimistic whiny aholes: thats no fun no matter the gender. I like my men soft but hard
like that one persons name said. Lol I think that says it all!
I have Sun conj Venus square Uranus and opposed by Neptune. There were times when as a musician I wore my hair long and women would give me crap about them not knowing whether I was a boy or girl. Just because some of you guys look more beautiful than women. I of course would tell them “Lady you’re crazy” and walk away.
I’ve always identified with Male Y chromosome traits. I shot stuff with bow and arrows and BB guns, carried around a M60, an M60 gunner for my reserve unit.
I also would tear up during some movies and love songs. I have a moon 1st house in Sagittarius conjunct Saturn so I am sporty play tennis, I am a dominant football player too. So yes I enjoy sports and I look good on the tennis court too. (once had a mob of too young HS girls watching me play tennis…I wore red my favorite color of course)
That Valkyrie sounds like the girl of my dreams. Despite my macho childhood and such. I still would play like Ken as my little sisters played with their Barbie dolls and I love little animals and torn between making sure they are fed or protecting them fiercely. There are some women whose overt macho side brings out the macho side of me. While making them feel feminine. I’ve had that effect on Tom Boy girls before. Oh and how they hated admitting that they love me and sometimes they’d like corner me and pin me up against the wall and start kissing me.
Or I enjoyed wrestling with the Tom Boy girl next door. She sometimes would get a little too carried away and get me in a leg scissors on my head, a little too close to her crotch for my liking. She would get too rough when aroused. She was much taller than me and overpowered me and liked pinning me down and looking down at me. It was quite strange we were both kind of young barely into puberty. Still I sometimes have no doubt that if she hadn’t moved across the state that she eventually would have ravaged me and repeatedly.
Her heavy breathing as she overpowered me and got on top of me with all her weight on me. It took a while to arouse me but she did. I was too young to have sex with anyone. so we didn’t but there was some sexual stuff going on between us. She would apologize to me after roughing me up and just about ravaging me. Then leave me alone. Til our next row. she played football with me and my friends in later months as I grew stronger and more coordinated. Play softball with me and my friends too. She still could overpower me when we wrestled though.
I ran across her years later at a classmates wedding and she was the maid of honor and of course she saw me and we danced the night away at the reception. She looked pretty good in a dress and she had some serious curves and cleavage. She was still taller than me and held me tight really tight as we danced. This time it was me pursuing her..and she was receptive. she went back across the state and I was only there for the wedding and I didn’t ever see her again. :0( I think she had a fiancee back home or something and she had to go. though she did invite my family to her younger brothers wedding in hopes that I’d show up. She didn’t say goodbye to me that night so I refused to see her because of it. That was that. Baby Baby don’t look back..it wont do no good.
You know, I really feel drawn to outgoing, intelligent, humorous, loud guys, but they never seem to be drawn to me: one of the ironies of how my Sag Mars plays out. The men who approach me tend to be the soft-spoken, supportive ones, and by “approach” I mean don’t find me too over-bearing and rebuff my friendliness. LOL! I enjoy people most who show a good balance of both masculine and feminine traits. In both men and women, I like tenderness and don’t mind an impassioned speech, but guys who behave badly and then confess in floods of tears make my blood boil. Being a little choked up by a movie is fine, or shedding a tear when moved by an intense emotional moment (like getting married or having a baby) is desireable. I appreciate people who are strong enough to let themselves feel their feelings, but not get bogged down by them. They tap into the strength of femininity. The sexiest man I know takes no care of his appearance in the Venusian sense (his clothes are torn, too short, covered in paint and glue, and his idea of grooming is stubble all over his head and chin that happen to be of the same length), but he is very much in touch with his inner woman. I’ve lost quite a few pairs of panties to his wardrobe; he favors the colorful and bold, even slutty, perhaps thanks to his Arian Venus? Meanwhile, he’s a tall, manly-looking man in a male-dominated industry, opinionated and full of common sense (Moon in Taurus, Mars in Taurus). The contradictions totally turn me on. Could it be my own Aquarian Venus with the dispositor in Scorpio responding to his Aquarius Asc. and my moon in Leo sitting in his 7th? A Cancer Sun/ Aquarius Moon man with Venus in Leo totally captured my heart too, once, but he confused me, treated me very badly, and turned out to be a mess. At first, he seemed sensitive to just the right extent, but turned out to be gaming me.
My Aqua guy has Venus in Pisces, he is so sensitive and dreamy for this. His Mars in sagitarian, and cap moon and Taurus Rising, He has traits from all of these signs and he is wonderful but I think it is his Pisces Venus that makes him so attractive to me the most. I have a Scorpio Venus so it gets very emotional when we discuss life things, Ladies, if you can cry with your man sometimes, it makes life easier……If you have a sensitive man that doesn’t mind crying when you cry it feels like another connection……He actually gets it when I’m tellling him how I feel. I think he is healthier then most men his age just because he can release
Gangsta of Love
I totally get what you’re saying. Men that are soft and hard….Hard bodied but soft hearted, at least that’s what I like
My friend in school was attracted to every gay man she met, funny thing is she married a tough rugged guy with little emotion..Yet in high school guys in drag turned her on….Interesting