Pisces may lie, but Sagittarius stretches the truth

December 12, 2007 by Jeffrey Kishner  



big chairIn the comments section of Sagittarius woman only needs Cancer man when she’s lonely, many Sagittarians lambasted the poor Cancer guy with Pisces rising for lying to his Sag ex-girlfriend.
“You see we do always tell the truth (as we see it) for better or worse and we do appreciate the truth in the same way.”

“Sadge women CANNOT be lied to…no matter what.”

“Sagittarius people cannot tolerate a liar.”

Perhaps the truth as Sagittarius sees it is not the same as The Truth. This sign’s ruling planet is Jupiter, the Expander and Exaggerator. When a fact doesn’t support Sagittarius’ worldview, philosophy or theory of everything, the Centaur may just choose to ignore it. After all, the Big Picture is more important than every little detail. And Sag may give some supporting pieces of information slightly more emphasis than others to make her point. She wouldn’t call this “lying,” just “putting things in perspective.”

Is stretching the truth less ethically questionable than outright lying? Sagittarius may not see it as a problem. But then again, Sag may not even be aware that she is leaving key points out of her version of the truth. Nor may she recognize when she is over-emphasizing a minor tidbit that makes her look better. And if she does know what she is doing … well, surely there is a good reason for it.

Sagittarius governs higher education and universities, and there are numerous cases of professors or researchers who fudge the data to help get their scholarly articles into the most prestigious journals. In her arrogance and self-aggrandizement, Sag may prune a few trees to make the forest look better.

Comment below: Do you know a Sagittarius who’s told a tall tale?

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31 Responses to “Pisces may lie, but Sagittarius stretches the truth”
  1. Anonymous says:

    I have Sagittarius rising and Venus, Mars, Uranus and North Node in the 9th. I tend to be brief on the details if I see them as not of the essence to the point I try to make!:)
    With Uranus in Scorpio on the MC, I’m a recurring, and, more often than not, innocent suspect (lol), and for this reason, I’m a good liar when I have to. (Haven’t had to since my Saturn return, though. Am I finally blending in?:P).
    With the Sun and Mercury rx in the 8th and Chiron in Taurus in the 3rd house, three is a crowd to my inner story-teller;) while at the same time Pluto on the 9th house cusp channels a soul given to some preaching, I’m afraid;)

    My ex had Mercury conjunct Neptune in Sagittarius in the 3rd house. He would not exactly tell any tall tales; rather, he would often omit crucial details and so left me in the dark very effectively. This was extremely annoying in the long run, because it was nearly impossible to tell when he did it on purpose and when he was just being absent-minded…;)
    I know someone with 5(!!!) planets in Pisces who does exactly the same thing…

  2. Anonymous says:

    “Sag may prune a few trees to make the forest look better”.

    LOL. *So* well said, my friend. You write very well!

    – Greets from iFate.com

  3. Anonymous says:

    You see this is where communication gets interesting. I left a comment – the first one you put in quotes Jeffrey and for the record I wasn’t lambasting anyone. It’s all in the way you interpret it and that wasn’t the way I was giving it out.

  4. Jeffrey Kishner says:

    I admit Anon Sag that I was being intentionally provocative.

  5. Anonymous says:

    I was feeling it Jeffrey, I was feeling it.

  6. victoria says:

    I just love all these photos you come up with :0

    a picture is worth a thousand words ;)

  7. Frisky Filly Fan says:

    so Sagittarius likes to ham it up a little

    these little crimes of ommission are an integral part of their sex appeal and innate charm!

    (remember that horses used to wear blinders so that they stayed on the straight and narrow whilst pulling chariots)

    they still wouldn’t cross a bridge if they felt their footing was unsure, and were very reliable in their judgement of a situation

    good horses, good horses!

  8. suze says:

    yes i do know about saggitarius telling tales, I was married to one for many years. He was so convincing that what he said was right,he was a master of the mind games and twisted my brain. Then I dated one for 3 years, same again, he convinced me he was honest, while he 2 and 3 timed me, but what he was doing was so right….My daughter is also saggitarian, and she has convinced herself that I never loved her ,,twisted her own mind and that breaks my heart. So I avoid the species……

  9. Tree says:

    Ive Known Sags to exaggerate to make a story better. Definitely.

  10. Sagilarious says:

    Didn’t Pisces used to be ruled by my planet Jupiter?

    I don’t know whether to comment on our attack of the Cancer/Pisces guy, or this post.

    I am guessing we Sag people are getting our chops busted cause we got all riled up and started shooting arrows at people….so Jeffrey thinks we need to be punished?

    Anyone ever seen the movie Big Fish? The way that story is told pretty much exemplifies what Jeffrey is getting at here.

    Either way, we don’t hurt anyone by making a story better, so long as we aren’t intentionally deceiving. We are the sign that likes to entertain. It’s hard not to do it. Me having a Pisces moon just sets me up for the double wammy, which has made me hyper-sensitive about the idea, as though lying is radiactive. I think my Sag plays dominatrix on my poor Pisces and makes her fess up too much :(

    And if you wanna say bad stuff about Sag, don’t forget we get bored of our mates easily and have affairs, can’t seem to hold on to money to save our own life, and must make a painful conscious effort to acknowledge when we are hurting someone with our words. Oh, we are also self-righteous, highly-combustible, so sexually promiscuous that we could’ve spread aids all by ourselves if someone had asked us to.

  11. Sagilarious says:

    radioactive****correction on that word

    sorry for mouthing-off Jeffrey.

  12. Anonymous says:

    When a Sagittarius exaggerates – There are only 20 people in the room at a (very small) party, but there are a few Leos in the room. Sagittarius is having the time of their lives. Brimming with happiness and laughter all the way with the Leos.
    Next day Sagittarius is telling a friend and to put across the point of how they felt Sagittarius makes it into 50 people in the room. We definately exaggerate and I think it might be because we want to share the feeling with other people but one thing I notice when I exaggerate is I always retrace my story and say there were probably only 20 people in that room.

  13. frisky filly fan says:

    so Paul Bunyan must’ve been a Sagittarius, then

  14. Jeffrey Kishner says:

    @Sagilarious, yes, Jupiter rules both Sag and Pisces … interesting, isn’t it? And I just couldn’t resist busting on ya, after some of you started “shooting arrows” at poor Cancer with Pisces Rising.

  15. Sagilarious says:

    Yeah, well we desereved it, I know. But it’s hard being a Sag!!! We have an astrological job. That is why we come with the freakin’ loaded quiver, straight outa the box. Just lemmie at that Cancer President of ours, then you will all be glad the rebel angel is also the one with arrows!

    Also, the problem with criticizing a Sag is that we like the attention.

    Still, it’s good someone has the jones to give us a taste of our own medicine.

  16. BalancedSag says:

    To respond to “Pisces may lie, but Sagittarius stretches the truth” ~
    I just want to say that there is a definite difference between exajurating and lying!!

  17. whatever says:

    he who is guilty of the least is guilty of the whole

    we are all liars, born in sin, shaped in iniquity

    love all, trust few
    learn to paddle your own canoe

  18. carolynita says:

    hehehehe, I see we just got busted. Being a Sag lady myself, I’ve gotta agree once again with Sagilarious. We’re all that and then some :) To be honest though, I find the whole exaggeration thing more true of Sagittarian men rather than women.

    They have the tendency to embellish their stories in order to entertain their audiences. Of course I’ve also known them to carry on several relationships at once, fibbing blatantly – albeit convincingly – all the while.

    For myself I’ve gotta say that I avoid exaggeration, generally sticking to facts (mainly because I’m absent-minded and forget what I’ve said afterwards) and tend to lie only to cover my *ahem* indescretions or just to keep the status quo. Could be the Virgo rising, *sigh* my only saving grace.

  19. Victoria says:

    Judging from your profile and blog on Seduction Central Carolynita you are a woman of many graces! Keep ‘em coming, your writing is delicious.

  20. Anonymous says:

    I’m Sagittarius, with Mercury and Venus in Sagittarius and I’ve told tall tales, but only when I was young (the last time I can remember was in middle school). When I was little, I learned the lesson very quickly that inventing stories was the same as lying and just as harmful. While I don’t actively lie (I find I can’t, or not convincingly unless I feel it’s really necessary to lie) I sometimes stretch the truth when I can’t think of words I want or don’t have the patience to explain the entirety of the situation. I don’t ever remember lying about something really important to someone I cared about–the guilt would eat at me. I feel no guilt about lying to strangers or people who pry, however.

    When someone directly lies to me about something, I become really offended. Indignant is the best word to describe it. Ironically, it was a Pisces who was lying to me. He was saving face, but I still felt as if I’d been slapped.

  21. Josh says:

    Okay. I’m sorry. But this is got to be one of the stupidest threads I’ve ever read.

    We ALL exaggerate and we ALL lie.

    To say one sign does one thing worst than all the others is the equivalent to racism.

    To say ALL Pisces lie and ALL Saggitarius stretch the truth is like saying ALL black people are broke and ALL white people are lame squares.

    Stop trying to confine people to their sign, hypocrites!

  22. Comparing Sun sign stereotyping to racism is one of the stupidest metaphors I’ve ever heard. There is no institutional power structure or history of oppression among zodiac signs.

  23. G.G. says:

    haha I agree with Jeffrey, that was a bad metaphor.
    And all that people on here are saying is that there are certain characteristics/behavior that are more common with certain zodiac signs. It’s not being hipocritical, no one is denying whether or not they are a certain way.

  24. Diva Sagittarius says:

    I love being a sag. It’s fun. I do think sag men are different from sag women in some ways. We do exaggerate a little but we do not lie. I would call it emphasizing. If you want to the truth sag will tell you. But, i agree with the previous comment about everyone exaggerates. Pisces men have a habbit of lying at least my ex and my male cousin.

  25. Discfive says:

    I’ve never met a Sag man who DOESN’T lie.

  26. jo says:

    spot on.

  27. Erica says:

    I’m a Sag girl but i think it’s just sag men who lie but thats not to say noone lies beacause everyone does it just matters how much you lie every zodiac sighn lies but none more than aries women

  28. Mandy says:

    I love how when a Sag exaggerates, they are “stretching the truth” but when a Gemini exaggerates, they are “compulsive liars.”

  29. LibraLady says:

    When my Sagitarian brother lies, it always sounds worse then the truth.
    Its almost as bad as “No, I didnt take his chocolate bar, I killed him” Oh, isnt that better…LOL Isnt the whole point of lying to sound better not worse ? (he he)

  30. LibraLady says:

    Mandy
    nah, I call them liars too….just not as skilled
    Besides everyone should know that Libra can lie the best…We are born liars, we dont want to hurt anyones feelings, “do I look fat?” “OMG no! You look great!” Gemini pauses too long to be believable….and a Sag, good god, he or she will lie and tell you that your even fatter then you are, your feelings dont seem to exist…..

  31. Diva Sag says:

    I can’t speak for the men but sags do hype up or stretch the truth…Who doesnt at times. I knew a sag woman who lied to make the other person be against the one she hated at that moment. But overall sags usually keep it one hundred real as far as im concerned. We also really dont like to deliberately hurt other people unless screwed over.

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