Libra and Scorpio: The glue that fails to hold them together
August 23, 2007 by Jeffrey Kishner
Lust alone can bring people together, but it’s not the glue that makes them stick. Whether you want some easy-to-apply paste or ’til-death-do-us-part cement, compatibility is the adhesive that helps two people cohere.
If Libra likes Elmer’s glue, then Scorpio digs the Crazy variety. Although both brands fasten, Scorpio’s going to cling alot more fiercely than Libra, who’s into forging the connection but not so committed to an everlasting bond.
Libra loves the idea of relationships, but this sign’s element — Air — is not as integral to the love-paste recipe as Water, Scorpio’s element. Scorpio feels his way into relationship, and it is the emotional intimacy that keeps his glue gummy.
However, before they even open up their art supply cabinets, these signs may think they’ve got a chance. Both signs are (traditionally) ruled by the lovers, Venus (Libra) and Mars (Scorpio). Both are associated with the relationship sector of the horoscope (7th and 8th Houses). Scorpio — immediately following Libra on the zodiacal wheel — picks up on the former’s initial impulse to connect and deepens it.
But that’s where the similarities end … and don’t we require two similar surfaces if we want to fasten them together?
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Phenix/scorpio
Very skilled in using people and very skilled in taking care of other people’s needs before their own too….My Scorpio friends, neice and mother are all the most unselfish people I know.
i completley forgot about this.
I wonder if a scorpio woman with a libra moon, venus in capricorn, and mars in cancer could make it work with a libra man if he had a taurus moon, venus in scorpio, & mars in cancer. hmm.
Regenisis
You could probably make it work….That sounds like a beautiful mix, and Libra guys love beauty… You have to tell him what you want though, Libra guys need to be told what you like, they actually appreciate being handed a list of what you think they should do to make things good, if that doesn’t bother you, enjoy, they love being given directions, even more then a Libra woman, but once they feel that you appreciate what they’ve done they will try to do even better, the more you say thank you to a Libra man the more he gives….forget to say it and they pout and give up trying (must be an ego thing) yes, we Libras have egos, we have very LARGE ego’s too, we just don’t show it LOL next time a Libra is being helpful, it might be out of ego, we get into I have to prove myself mode
As always reading these posts are never boring . . .
Libra woman/Scorpio man always, always gets a bad rap. I think Susan Miller, from the Astrology Zone, was one of the few astrologers who said otherwise. However, I find that she gives very good insight, by looking at things from all angles. When you’re dealing with relationships, you have to. It’s not so cut and dry. People are complex creatures! We are many many shades, even if our own outlook is often black and white. I quite enjoy astrology, and I find it incredibly fascinating. At the same time, it’s so important to focus on the individual – what makes that person tick. When you’re able to reach an understanding with each other in your relationship, continue to grow and don’t stop! A relationship takes work, and there will always be ups and downs. The question is, how do you and your partner deal with those turmoils?
My grandparents were Libra male/Scorpio female, and they were married happily for 60 years before my grandfather passed. Did they always have the typical “50s happy marriage 24/7″? Hell no! Ha ha, they argued frequently. They didn’t always agree on everything. She was quite controlling of him, in fact. At the same time, he did things his own way, letting her think she was the boss . . . They found compromise though and lived for each other because they understood one another. My grandmother is a very jealous individual, and unfortunately she did damage a lot of relationships that my grandfather had with his family.
More on this later, I have to dash and meet my fella who is a scorpio btw . . . Whatever you say, we are a team and we understand each other
lol.
I like what LibraLady said here and in other post too about the Libra trait and personality. Thank you for sharing the information. I was so confused with the Libra guy for a long time…the way he did this and that. I am a Scorpio and the libra guy made me nut!! He always over-promised but hardly delivered…it is a small thing but I, a scorpio, was obsessed about it anyway LOL. I still wonder why they love to promise to do thing when they are not sure if they could. I never do that.
Pop
I was married to a Libra man for 5 years and I know all about the false promises…Not all Libra men are like that but some are very immature and are used to life looking after them so its okay to make promises because they think that somehow things will just look after themselves (like mom and dad used to for them) and everything will work out. As a result you’ve got a preocrastinator that lives on dreams…..I also find this trait in a lot of guys my age (Im 39) regardless of sign. I find so may people lazy and just lacking the drive to make things work. I also find myself becoming impatient with the childish way that a lot of men handle things…..There are too many video games to distact them from real problems so they don’t seem to learn…
Oh thanks for replying, LibraLady
I am 37. This is my first relationship with a libra man. My previous one was a tuarus man. I think tuarus is much more reliable. But I really do love this libra man…even after all this madness.
Because you used to live with a libra man…could you give me some advice? I really want this relationship to work. But most of the time I am in the dark. What should I do? Our relationship was sort of ON and OFF for awhile. Sometimes he was so sweet but the other time was cold and distant and I could not figure out how to reach and love him properly.
Is there any cure for him or for me LOL?
Sometimes I want to quit…but something, Karma maybe, keeps me here.
Pop
I may not be able to give much good advice, I’ve been divorced from mine for 10 years now and still don’t understand him. The only thing I can say is keep him as a friend if things don’t seem romantic, sort of let him know that you need more warmth from him…As a Libra myself, I know that we want to please…Even though my ex wasn’t the one for me, he did try to make me happy sometimes, but we had a love/hate relationship and he didnt want our son, so my situation was not typical of Libra/Libra…..I guess in the beginning how I got him to warm up was talk to him a lot, Libras like being told how to fix things, if you explain to him what you need/want and how he could do this, he will try. I will give Libra guys that, they apreciate directions or advice…I hope that your relationship gets better..The fubby thing is both me and he are Scorpio Rising and did a lot of arguing, LOL so it was doomed from the start, 2 people that hate conlict(libra) and at the same time vicious in battle(scorpio) It was not a good match for us…LOL We were destined to crash and burn….
Thank you so much LibraLady.
I really do apprecite your kind response and insight.
Just talking to you makes me feel much better.
Sometimes, this world is cruel, funny, crazy and beautiful…all of that…at the same time.
Hello Pop and Welcome back libra lady.
I dont understand the reason for this confusion at all. A libra female/scorp male is entirely different from the libra male scorp female relation. A few salient points to be noted.
1. There is more of libra male scorp female relations than the other way around. This is the accidental love at first sight thing which in fact is nothing more than a chemistry. The chemistry does not necessarily lead to an intense sexual relationship, the scorp female might find it a bit of a drag.
2. The libra female scorp male relation is pretty rare because it is a Karmic rule governed by the 12th house matters and also because the paths dont cross.
3. Where it happens there can be a lot of clashes till both parties evolve spiritually and meet at a higher plane of understanding in which case it is the rare Gift of Magi for which you have worked really hard a deserve a aura around yourselves. The true power of the relation lies in its unity and not in individuality. The false pride and peacock tendencies as well as the destructive tendencies of a scorp male are watered down by the libra girl over time. A libra lady as per the stars is the stella maris or the Empress of the zodiac and a scorp male is the emperor of the zodiac. The other 10 signs are more like the knights on a kings table. But everything is not all ball dances and waltzes, you need to earn your designation.
4. Coming to libra men, as i have pointed out before they are the lady boys of the zodiac and there are more gays to libra, cancer and virgo then any other. If not atleast a cryptic bisexual and transvestite tendencies
5. Since scorp girls are vain about the handsome romeo like appearance that can be shown off in public it is natural to get attracted to such mama’s boys (a grave mistake). But the romeo of the ancient days was not just a handsome one but a chivalrous knight. Alas this is where our current day mama’s boys fall out. They are not just moral cowards but sexually deviated.
6. The moral honesty of most libra men is very questionable. Saturn being in exaltation in libra and since saturn is the master of mischief and rules criminals and the dark side there is quite a lot of libra men under the criminal archives
7. There are exceptions to the rule but the fidelity factor in libra men is pathetic, they are fools for love and every chick is a love at first sight to them.
8. Presuming Mr.Libra to be a long term provider and partner you would be better off building a castle of butter than relying on Mr. Libra, they tend to go for younger and prettier types like the eastern sultans and their harems
9. In corporates they make good office politicians and mischief makers
This is the general pattern of scorp female relations. Dear scorp lady is this what suits your psyche.
rgopi30 you just made me realize that there were a lot of discussions about this topic in the past. I am new to this site and I just read the most recent comments. Well, I just read quickly through the older discussions and it seemed like there are a lot of disagreement going on but it is interesting. But I admit I hate to argue…LOL maybe I have so many planets in libra…venus, mars uranus, pluto and Midheaven too.
But thanks for writing. And what you write in # 4 5 6 7 8 and 9 almost make me running and screaming from libra man LOL.
BTW, what #4 is interesting…I have two gay friends and they are virgo and cancer.
Very well spoken rgopi.
Thanks Sweet existence and welcome back; as well as POP.
The reason is not to condemn anyone sign or claim superiority. It is just that humans have been placed in this earth to raise up to a higher cosmic consciousness from this routine mundane existence which consists of Material security and greed and pleasure seeking and evil. This unfortunately is an effort few seem to be taking to claim the seat of a higher Master of Understanding.
rgopi30 and Pop
Hi, hope you have a Happy New Year! I agree with the lady boy description, it is there in so many Libra guys I know LOL
As far as Libras go, Im not typical as I have so many different sign traits, Aries moon, Scorpio rising and venus, Virgo mars. My guy, who I love dearly is not a typical Aquarian, he’s Cap moon, Pisces venus, Taurus Rising and Sag mars, so we make a strange combo. What I would like to know is do Libra Scorpio relationships end up mutually clingy? My man and I are like that. I find him so intense that I thought he was a Scorpio when I laid eyes on him the first time LOL, we are both clinging to eachother to the point that I get scared…Anyways, he is possesive which is odd for an Aqua and I hate myself for this but I’m beginning to get that way too…If he hadnt told me his Bday, Id swear he was a Scorpio, he is getting moody now too, which completely puzzles me, anyways any advice on how to prove to him that I love him as much as he loves me? I cant beleive how intense our love is getting……
LibraLady:
I understand how you feel too. Sometimes I’m scared that my BF and I are becoming so close that he’s eventually going to want to push me away. We spend a lot of time together, and our relationship at times is intense (him being a Scorpio, that’s no surprise, lol).
I think a man really likes it when a woman does little things for him – things that she knows he’ll enjoy. My BF loves it when I leave lil post-it notes hidden in his apartment. When he’s cooking, I’ll help him do the dishes and clean the kitchen. I’ll give him a nice massage when he’s tired or his back is sore. I’ll lend him an ear when he needs it. Men feel good when we tell them, “thank you”, after they’ve helped us. It makes them feel appreciated. Pay for dinner/date once and awhile. Give him that special touch you know he goes crazy for. Actions speak louder than words
. I know these all sound like small details, but they really add up to a lot. Men pick on these patterns. It makes them feel wanted, shows them that you really care. This is the advice that I’ve heard coming from a guy.
Speaking of libras/scorpios being clingy: I’m learning to give my man space when he needs it. It helps that he gets his alone time when he travels for work. Otherwise, we’d both probably go stir crazy, yet when we get together – you can’t pull us apart. Yeah, why are libra/scorpio so clingy to each other?
Hello lovely libra and libra lady, the reason for this clingy or close relation is as follows. Not all the 11-1 or neighbor signs follow this.
1. If you can link the astrological wheel to a horseshoe magnet the arches of it comes under the various signs and the poles of the magnet with libra being the north and scorpio the south pole, the opposite poles of the earths magnetic field it is this balance of the magnetic attraction that keeps the earth in a elliptical shape and helps in its axial revolution.
2. The poles again are ruled by venus (north) and mars (south), they are destined to be with each other but by overcoming karmic obstacles.
3. When the opposing intense energies of male-female, diurnal-nocturnal, positive-negative unite it leads to a creation of a energy field which vibrates to ZERO or nothingness which is a higher plane of energy and awareness than the dual energies. This is energy is the source of librafemale scorp male conflicts in all unions, some evolved couples overcome this and live happily the others succumb to this energy and separate.
Hope it solves your question
rgopi30:
Why give up on your potential soulmate just based off of what the stars say? You could be giving up the love of your life, and never know it.
Interesting stuff . . . Seriously though, every successful relationship takes work no matter what. Two out of four of my boyfriends were Aquas, THEE supposed ideal match for me, yet neither of them worked out. I won’t even get into details about dating a Pisces . . . My Scorpio guy and I click in a way I haven’t with any other guy I’ve dated before. We have a very strong understanding of each other, and how we “tick”. I embrace what makes us different as well. We compliment each other, yet we’re alike in so many ways. I know we get a bad rep as an astrological couple! I think people can defy those odds if they’re willing to accept one another and truly understand that person as an individual. It’s work, yes, but it’s worth it in the end
Hello to all Libra girls/toddlers/ladies etc.
Here is a very provocative question for all of you libra females. I have come across two very recurrent instances as i quote below.
1. A surprising number of libra girls or ladies or abused by either of or both their parents verbally, mentally, majority physically, and few of them sexually. Even if the sexual abuse is not overt, it is bound to be subtle psychological signals on part of the father.
2. The mothers tend to be jealous of the libra girl’s beauty and virtues in most cases and tends to do them more harm than good in the garb of motherhood.
3. Most libra females dont realise this because the sign despite its supposed flirtatiousness is one of pure innocence, the innocence of libra girls is likely to bring tears to my eyes in sharp contrast to the cruelty of this world. The capacity for instrospection does not exist in libra females since the sign rules mirrors, they depend on the partner for their self-awareness. God bless these ladies with a husband who helps them achieve this else they remain innocent and abused throughout.
4. The childhood trauma is so ingrained in their subconscious that reactions to any crisis is the collective effect of the trauma embedded in their subconscous.
5. This trauma dictates the terms for their future relations and they end up marrying someone who ends up brutalising them financially, emotionally, physically and so on, THEY keep the illusion of love alive till it burns them and they let go and separate
6. The deepest need of a libra girl is to be loved and she is willing to give all in return with no aces up her sleeve, when this is thwarted the psyche preys upon itself as a hungry snake.
7. Success in academics and business is not the same as psychoemotional success.
A libra girl may or may not be superficially good looking but there is a invisible light in the aura of most libra girls i have known, and i can identify one in a crowd.
Here the beauty becomes a curse for them. The soft nature invites the more villanous types of people like abusive parents and husbands, it is the attraction of the masochist and sadist.
Deconditioning these girls becomes a herculean task, i have seen the above patterns in the girl next door as well as the more famous examples like Rita Hayworth
Pls give me your opinions
Interesting post. I have reading on Scorpios since one of my dear friends told me how difficult his relationship was with his girlfriend, a Scorpio.
Interestingly enough, he has Libra rising. He’s told me communication is very difficult between them.
I’ll keep reading on all these Scorpio posts. Very interest.
rgopi30:
Wow, that’s a lot! I can’t say I had the same experience myself. I’m the opposite: I grew up in a very loving home. My Cappy sister is much prettier than I am. People usually compliment her before they notice me. My mom’s an Aqua so we get along like two peas in a pod. She’s already a pretty lady, so she has no reason to be jealous of her daughters . . . And I was the one who dumped all of my ex boyfriends (except the 1st one, he just beat me to it).
Yes I do agree that we Librans have a desire to be loved. I’m a fussy libra though, I have to have the entire pie. I’m not satisfied with one wedge, I want the whole deal. He has to meet my needs/wants, as I meet his
. I do believe that some girls fall into this pattern though. I think a lot depends on what you learn from your past relationships.
rgopi30
that was almost frightening….I wan’t abused at home but I was stifled. I didn’t get a lot of attention becuase both brothers needed more, I grew up feeling okay about that but a lot of my interests and ideas were hidden from my parents, sick of the redicule and the word “nonsense”. I began going out with guys that had problems, you know just to feel needed, or valued….Really dumb but I married the most controlling and jealous guy I ever met, he wanted to be the center point of my life even before our child and I just wasn’t going to do that.Then things got violent and dangerous. In the beginning though, I felt cherished by him, I felt like he needed me and that was what kept me with him even though I didn’t love him…..He treated me like I was special….Before that I felt like nobody. The people I hung out with were superficial, I was attractive so they were around but none of them made me feel interesting. I laugh about it now but I married a physco because he wanted to be with me. everyone else just wanted to be seen with me LOL I never let him hit me though, rest assured the mn can still walk today LOL
Hey sweet existence
how are you, unable to leave you a comment on your profile or even a message, presume there is a technical problem in the sasstrology site.
Anyway am doing great missing your lovely lunar voice/words.
Yourscorpmale R.Gopi
rgopi30
You should see my mom, she is beautiful. All the Scorpio women I’ve known are
My Sag brother used to be married to a Taurus lady that is now jealous of their Libra daughter and Scorpio daughter too. Both girls are adorable but instead of feeling proud of them, she is jealous. She also hates my guts (since we met) I am in a serious relationship with what used to be her employer (purely coincidental, we met through a different mutual friend LOL)I’ve met a lot of Taurs women that were proud of themselves and proud of their children but this woman is crazy I think because she hates these girls when they look pretty. when I buy them clothes or my mom does she gets really mad. The raggy clothes she picks out for them are horrible and she can afford more then I can. It isn;t just Libra daughters that get hated by their mothers sometimes. My mom is a Scorpio and her Libra mother was a bitch. My mom is gorgeous and so is her Scorpio sister and their mom was really jealous….It isn’t sign that does it, I think its insanity. I love that my son is the best looking boy in the neighborhood (he is too) He is a handsmome little crab ….If I had a daughter I would be just as proud, that would be great we could get our hair done together and everything