A cheating Pisces
February 21, 2007 by Jeffrey Kishner
A sad Sagittarius writes:
He cheated– my sweet, innocent, “fallen angel” as he likes me to refer. Why? Now what? Does that mean he is over me? As he put it “she literally broke into his house in the middle of the night, and she is an ex ex ex girlfriend, the type he wishes he had spent more time with.” Isn’t that just about every ex for a Pisces? He did tell me that he loves me, before this obviously, and he said it often. This seems out of nowhere. I haven’t cried yet, and I told him I didn’t want to speak with him anymore. Now, I want to speak with him and find out the golden question: why?Is there hope? I still love him too much.
Sad Sag,
It sounds like your Pisces is embodying the very worst qualities of his sign: passivity and martyrdom. Pisces is the archetype of the crucified Jesus — no wonder he likes you to refer to him as your “fallen angel.”
Your Pisces’ ex may very well have broken into his house, and I’m sure he wishes he had spent more time with her, but he’s with you now. He could have said, “No, I have a girlfriend.” Pisces can act as if they are helpless victims, but there are Pisces who have grown up. “Help, I’m a fallen angel, and I can’t get up” is no excuse, especially since he can get it up with someone else.
I’m not sure trying to get a reasonable explanation out of him is worth your time. He went with the flow of the moment, as Pisces are prone to do. If you’re a guy, and an ex you’re still hot for breaks into your house and seduces you, it does take some backbone to save your bone for your girlfriend. I’d actually be more worried about this ex who broke into his house — is she stable?
There may be hope for the relationship if your Pisces can take responsibility for his part, as well as make a commitment to grow up. That’s not something you can measure, but you’re a Sag … either you have faith, or you don’t.
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I am a taurus women who has been married for 4 months to a pisces male. We dated for 2 years, and had a son before we married.
Since we have dated I found out that he has cheated since we have been together with more than 3 women. The first time I caught him was before we got married. He said that he was ending their relationships and he only did it for the money. So we went ahead and got married. Then shortly after we got married I found a picture naked picuture of a pisces women on this phone. (This is one of the same women that he had been cheating with before, but said that she was not for him and she had to many problems) I again confronted him and he asked me what I wanted to do, and proceed to turn it around on me. Like if I did the things I was suppose to do he wouldn’t cheat basically. I told him if he wanted this family then he needed to stop. Since then I have contiuned to catch him. I have spoke to this girl that he lied to and told that we were separated. She told me that he said I was just crazy and lazy. That we were not meant to be and that he was only with me for my son. I was so hurt by these things. We got in a fight also, and I told his parents and siblings everything. He got so mad! But I just wanted him to see how he was hurting me and to get opinions from other people that were his love ones, but it back fired on me and I was the trader…
Since then our marriage has been different. I told him about me speaking to the girl and he didn’t say sorry or anything, just got mad and said that I messed up his money and that was all she was good for (hint she is a sagtturis(sp)). I gave him one for time. He then said to complain and told me that I was to much in his business and that I needed to stop looking at this phone. Also, I needed to get rid of my Myspace and Facebook account because I was posting our business on there(which I wasn’t I just had our wedding pictures and said I was married). So day I posted something about me husband on my page and he found out from what he said was a guy friend (which I know is a lie) and go so mad, told me that that marriage was bascially done, because I choose myspace over him and our marriage. I can understand but your business on websites but if you married and Im your wife what does it matter. I believe that some girl saw it and got upset.
After this we haven’t talked in over a week. I tried to talk to him about the kids, and what to tell them. And he just said I take care of it and that its. I just want to know what is he think. Is he cheating because he doesn’t love me, or it it money, or just him being a pisces.
Right now I am really done, unless a mircle happens and he get hit with reality. Someone out there help me…
Taurus Girl,
I would love to know the other placements in his chart, particularly his rising, moon and venus signs. This Pisces sounds as thought his other planets are overriding his sun as I know several Pisces, male and female, who do not carry-on relationships in that manner. Taurus and Pisces are usually a very good match, and, by the way, Pisces and Pisces are not a good match as well as Pisces andSag so I dnt think those relationships that he was having meant anything…HOWEVER HE WAS WRONG FOR EVEN PURSUING THEM EVEN BEFORE YOU TWO WERE MARRIED AND HAS A LO OF NERVE BLAMING IT ON MONEY…IM SURE HE WOULDNT BE TRYIN TO HEAR YOU IF YOU DID THE SAME THING AND GAVE SUCH A LAME EXCUSE. My dad is a Pisces and he is nothing like that at all….though I am not saying he is a saint. It is also odd that he walked out of the relationship so easily…that makes me wonder if he really loved you in the first place because most Pisces put up with a lot before czlling it quits and usually never like to call it quits first…the one thing that is familiar is him blaming everything on you…that is a trait of the worst Pisceans…cheating and blaming the other person’s faults as the cause. What are the other placements in his chart?
Thanks for your response Pisces Queen,
I don’t know his chart. His birthday is 3/14/80 if that helps. (mine is 5/13/84). He is still in around. He comes home everyday, but we just don’t talk. I mean its sweird I don’t know what he’s waiting on. Hes said he is going to get his own place soon and will still help me pay my bills, because I don’t trust him and he doesn’t want to live like this anymore. Which pisses me off because I have forgave he several times. I told him I was wrong for looking in his phone,but he gave me a reason not to believe what he was saying because he was acting sneaky. He hasn’t said anything about divorce papers, so I think he’s waiting on me, but Im just worried if its the right thing to do. When we are together and things are perfect we are great. We had a relationship when we first met. I just want to get back to that. But I can’t contiune in a marriage that the other person doesn’t work. His family seems to think that he really loves me, but at this point I really don’t think he ever did. We have just been through so much (its been 2 1/2 years of back and fourth, but moment of good periods). The week before last he was fine, but then just got so mad that I put something about him on my myspace. Its like the small things that make him madder than the big things that he has done. I feel like he looking for a way out of the marriage, but he waitin on me to give it to him. I just can’t deal with the back and fourth… I just know what will happen. Im not sure if I should serve him with divorce papers or wait to see if he’s going to snap out of this dream world he’s in and realize he has lost this perfect taurus.
Taurus Girl,
Sorry to hear about your troubles. Pieces men are very strong. To me they’re more magnetic than other water signs. The men are deeply passionate and very protective of their women (sisters, mom’s etc) and very affectionate. I dig how you could feel head over heels.
Pieces men are SEXY, outspoken, sure of themselves and have this sense of duty that I love.
One thing that troubles me is when you said “He said that he was ending their relationships and he only did it for the money.” Old boy is a Gigalo (sp). He uses women. He’s a weak man. Maybe he needs to mature, but his motives and actions are super shady. I would leave him alone. I have a 9 year old and am a single mom, so I wouldn’t tell anyone to take on that hardship under ordinary circumstances, but you deserve peace and joy in your life and your kids really deserve it. They’re the ones to be considered. Let him go do his thing and focus on your kids. I would make plans to leave him when I mustered up the strength. Good luck.
Taurus Girl, your husband has his sun in Pisces, but Leo is his rising sign which explains some of his manipulative ways in how he finds reason in his cheating and manipulates you into believin you caused it….also his moon is in aquarius and his venus is in Taurus….they may be hard for him to deal with because Aquas like to be free people but yet Tauruses like stability and routine…I think he is fighting with this inside of him…His Leo rising is the flirt who adores the attention of other women but his Taurus venus wants the relationship…this must make him a difficult person to understand and probably makes it hard for him to understand himself….I think you should separate from him for a while or seek marriage counseling
Taurus Girl,
Also, you are a Taurus with a Gemini rising and your moon in Scorpio and your venus in Taurus….you and your husbands arguemnts are probably very bad when you guys do have them….Your Gemini rising and your Taurus stubborness can probably mean that you can be very controlling at times which a Pisces detests especially one with an Aquarius moon who seek freedom and with a Leo rising who are the ones who like to be in control…I think the best way to show him how wrong he is is to sa nothing at all and act like you are moving on….he is playing on the fact that he knows yo care and doesnt think you will leave…give him a taste of what life would be like if you werent around.
Thanks so much for all the advice Pisces Queen:
Your so right about him. (even through I messed up typing his birthday which is actually 3/17/84, must have been typing to fast). Even with the mess up of the birthday I think you were right no the money.
I didn’t say anything yesterday, and had a little bit of an attitude. Then he writes me this morning and tells me that since I was on my little period last night or something he will be moving out next week. I said nothing back in return. And I plan on going out this evening. I love him a lot and my marriage is important, but I can’t live or be married to a person that can’t respected me or theirselves.
Thanks again, I follow up with you and let you know what happens.
Taurus Girl….
Pisces Queen,
Wow, you are very skilled at this. I wonder if you could provide any insight on me and my Pisces. his DOB is 03/05/1983 mine is 08/26/1979 (hitting the big 3-0 soon!)
i have a problem with a pisces too… i know you are probably thinking..uhh pisces and pisces relationship? haha but my pisces has been awesome!! i mean no signs of cheating or any interest in anybody else..head over heels in love with me ..until now. We have only been together for a year but i have some suspicions and just my intuition..which so far has ALWAYS been right.My pisces has a friend (a girl) which is totally cool with me i mean i have guy friends. And we have a very honest relationship. We always tell each other what we feel and everything. Well this friend of my pisces is a virgo..and as he told me she went to his house the other day so he could help her with some kind of homework.. and well he said he kissedher on the cheek…i mean i could be paranoid but then again i think im on to something. Since that day the ‘kiss ont he cheek’ happened. The friend has been staying on msn way longer than she use to(i have her as a friend on msn so i know) like she use to sign of at 8 or 9 and now she would stay there until 2 or 3 around the time my bf signs off! and my bf has been neglecting me a little more lately.. and mostly when he’s on msn..as he says he’s always downloading or doing something?? i mean its just so many thigs at the same time :S my pisces was born on 03/12/89 and i was born on 02/24/91..plz help!!!!! im going crazy! dont know what to do about the situation!
Pisces men are wimps and weak-willed. My Pisces ex cheated on me after one year of marriage because he said he was seduced and he couldn’t help it. Flaky and unprincipled is how I describe them! I’m now married to a Scorpio. We disagree now and then but I know for a fact he would never do anything to hurt me or my kids.
Oh man, reading through these comments, the opinions on the Pisces male just gets worse and worse! This gets me worried, as I’m a Leo girl who is friends with a Pisces man, and he’s lately been secretly flirting with me (you guessed it–online!). I’m wondering if I should stop now and save myself the hurt. I have his chart details and he doesn’t appear to be the cheating type–although he has told me some little lies–but I am worried I might be setting myself up for heartache!
JL:
It seems like Leo’s have a particularly hard time with the FIsh. I would proceed with caution.
Jenny-
Take our word for it..you should tread with caution. Although the attraction beween leos and pisces can be magnetic and sexy it is usually the leo who gets burned. Their water puts out our fire. Unless he has some fire somewhere in his chart, maybe moon or venus/mars, it’s difficult for the connection to work. Check out all of the posts under “my male pisces left me; will he come back?” on this website.
Good luck if you decide to go fishing!
@ dominored
You say that Pisces men are:
‘SEXY, outspoken, sure of themselves and have this sense of duty that I love’
Sexy, -YES
Mysterious- YES
Secretive- YES
Sure of themselves- NOT!
…absolutely NOT, they float thru life accepting what life throws at them
Sense of duty- What??!
…To what? They seem to slink away from responsibility in every sense of the word…
Sorry to burst your bubble, darlin…
Assertive Aries,
You are too funny…..Aries will never understand that Pisces men are sure of themselves. Its just that the people that we are with never fully know whether we are sure or not. Pisces people are always thinking in our head and analyzing people and things way before they or others even know it. Aries people usually jump the gun and think later. Pisces people are the opposite. We think and think but when we make the move, we make it and mean it. No regrets. My father is a Pisces and he exudes responsibility which is why he worked and went to college when I was born so that I wouldnt have to pay any college tuition and bought me a car outright, no loan, so that I wouldnt have to pay a note during grad school. He takes care of all the bills for my mom and is always the one every one of his family members run to in crisis to deal with the situation. So, just like I am sure that you believe that not all Aries act before they think, then please keep in mind that not all Pisces men lack a sense of responsibility and that you may just be unlucky in those you have come across and made the mistake of then making a generalization.
Ms. Virgo,
Sorry I just saw your post…havent been on this site in a little while. March 5 is in the second decan of the Pisces Zodiac sign…which means he is probably not as wild as the first decan of Pisces can be. My dad and male cousin are also members of that decan as well as I. Pisces men can be the most frustrating because, relationship-wise, they can come off as very confusing. This is because we are very fearful, both the men and women, of being taken for granted. This fear of being used leads us to overanalyze everything and everyone but not actually removing those people from our lives until we have come to a final conclusion about them. The bad part is that some Pisces men, usually in the other decans, do not have great tact in how they do this and end up loking like players. But, honestly, Pisces men could never be players even if they tried. There is always some woman out of that group who they really want to be with but are either scared that the woman does not feel the same or scared that they will get hurt. It is not that hard to find out how a Pisces man feels about you, you just have to understand their thought-process. They are very moody and are not good at being around others while in their moods. If he really cares about you, he will try to hint to you when he needs space, usually not because of another woman, but because he is depressed, broke, or some form of unhappy. Do not freak out like many Virgo women do…lol…but let him know in a non-confrontational way, to let you know when he doesnt want to be bothered for whatever the reason. That is just an example. Pisces men also need lots of space, but this is only when they are not totally in love or committed to you as yet. It is a lot easier when you are living with them. Pisces, on whole, DO NOT LIKE DRAMA OR DRAMA-DRAINING PEOPLE. Therefore, keep arguments to a minimal. We would always rather talk a situation out or debate then argue and if the environment with you is full of too much arguing we will disappear or start seeing someone else or envisioning being with someone else. Also, and my mom told me this, once you hurt a Pisces man, its a wrap and only a miracle would make them come back to you and even if they do, it will most likely never be the same, so please, whatever you do, be completely honest with him at all times. We respect honesty more than anything because it means that we can trust you and therefore not worry about being hurt by you.
Hope this bit of advice helps…lol
I’m an Aries woman who had a 5 year on-again/off-again relationship with a Pisces male that I recently ended for GOOD by playing ‘Casper’ and disappearing completely..
I was faithful and ADORED him, but my intuition combined with his lack of effort was a deal-breaker…
That’s not the best way to handle things, but he was selfish. When I would try to talk to him about how I felt about how the relationship was making me unhappy and about his lack of action or initiative toward making the relationship work, he would get defensive and it was always someone ELSE’s fault!..(ex-girlfriend, childhood, etc…)
He drove me completely crazy with his MOODS, always saying ‘I’m Sorry!’ but never making any real changes, constantly being broke (but ALWAYS had money for cigarettes, weed and liquor), weakness, martyrdom, and playing victim, I had had ENOUGH…I was becoming miserable…
A Pisces man can seem romantic, but u MUST make him show you through ACTIONS and DEEDS, NOT words that they actually love AND respect you!!…
They’ll tell you whatever they think you wanna hear…But getting those lovely words of being ‘hoplessly in love’ into action is the REAL challenge..
Aries women, BEWARE! **
Leo women, BEWARE! **
Sagittarius women, BEWARE! **
** We need strong men not financially and emotionally unstable ones
Assertive Aries,
Pisces men are strong, but you, my friend Assertive Aries, clearly met a weak and immature one which every sign of the Zodiac sign has. Dont judge al Pisces men by this because your situation doesnt speak for all and in my experience, which I will say doesnt speak for all Aries, Aries, the women in particularm always seem to like to date people that are not on their level financially. They like to be the partner with the upper financial hand or emotional control. Pisces people HATE control freaks with a passion and when we realize thet is what you are, we will purposely do the exact opposite of what you want because, despite what people believe, we aleady seen it coming. You probably picked up this Piscean in the same way that you met him: on a lesser financial level than you. All the Arians I have known,both men and women, have dated mates that were in lower financial statuses than they were and I have read this in several Zodiac resources. I have one Arien friend who was dating this guy she knew was broke…started paying all his bills very soon after they started dating and then thought she could become a control freak because she was paying his bills. Between that and the ridiculous jealousy, that alone will drive a Pisces man to leave you. The funny thing is that Pisces men do not leave the relationshi when they are no longer interested. They just force the partner to leave by doing the opposite of what they want because they dont want to hurt their feelings by telling them “its over.”
@ Pisces Queen…
Thank you, that explanation helps…
It’s too late for my Pisces man though, I cut off all contact completely and will not answer his calls or texts (hopefully he gets the hint I’m done with him soon, as he hasn’t as of yet and it’s been a couple months)…
It started to drain me when he ALWAYS wanted to talk to me about his problems, his depression and himself..I don’t think he completely healed from past bad relationships, so he was always bitterly reminiscing about those past breakups and how the women wronged him..
Secretly I think some men LIKE women who treat them bad and don’t quite know how to handle women are sincerely loving and supportive…I don’t get it, but I also have moved on and don’t have time to play therapist to anyone who isn’t completely invested…
Lesson Learned
PQ:
Thanks. I would be very interested to know more about these decans that you speak of-LOL. Your advice is spot on, though he usually doesn’t pull the ’space’ thing with me. We’ve been together long enough that I can pretty much read his moods but when we are not working, we’re usually together. I was just wondering if his DOB makes him different in any way than typical Pisces.
Taurus Girl I am going tHru a similar situation, but tHe only difference is tHat I am not married. My pisces was born 3/5/84. I cHeated on Him twice in tHe begginning of tHe relationsHip, He found out and cHeated on me twice witH THis girl He claims is random. He stayed wit a good friend of His, and tHe girl He cHeated on me wit was tHe Niece of His Good friend. WHen tHe girl called me, sHe said tHat He told Her tHat I was crazy, and He only wanted Her not me. WHen I confronted Him witH Her on 3 way, He yelled mad saying I am messing up His living arrangments. I dumped Him, but since I am pregnant, I took Him back. Now I found out He still talk to tHis girl, and He supposingly messed witH His ex (SHe emailed me on myspace) He said He only told me How He wants to be wit me and loves me so I wont take His daugTHer away. THat Hurt, and it feels like He dont love me but His sister says SHe knows He does, but I deserve better. Pisces bring drama wit tHem. Libras Hate Drama! I am now 39 weeks pregnant, and He wants to be togetHer as a family, wants to marry me blaH BlaH blaH! I dont trust Him! I dont know if Pisces tell tHe otHer women tHose tHings to make it more comfortable in tHere mind to cHeat. THey often try to blame otHers for tHeir own actions, but its just bulls****. Pisces are wisHY-WasHy. THey will also look tHru your tHings, and try to fisH for info, but dont like it if you do tHat to tHem!
I would really really like some help in my situation. I've been with my Pisces male (Rising: Gemini Moon: Cancer Venus: Aries Mars: Virgo) and I'm an Aquarius female (Rising: Leo, Moon: Virgo, Venus: Capricorn Mars: Libra) for 2 years now. We've definitely had our ups and downs – I think mainly because he was a rebound and I had uncertainties about leaving who I was with at the time. I've been living with him for 1 1/2 years and the things that have really eaten up our relationship (some dealt with) have been him having gal friends he would talk to on the phone and never told me about, one that he put under a guy's name and I investigate it – told him my theory – and he tried to worm his way out of that one (the girl knew who I was, too).
Lost 6 pounds stressing out about that one! He talks about his exes more than needed, likes to be secretive, doesn't like my calling his work, and everytime I give him my point of view to a situation or something I said earlier on he tells me that I'm being argumentative. He says I oppose him at every turn, but I tell him what I feel! I honestly feel we're the same person and yet totally different at the same time. He makes me cry, does the whole "no, this is your fault you're feeling this way" crap, calls me insecure, immature, passive-agressiveness, and that I lie to myself! Says I like in a false reality. Well, you all are right! This Pisces is the best looking male speciman I've ever been with, and was fun and charming and intellectual in the beginning. Now all I see is a male chauvenist, manipulative, controlling, half-truth, emotional blackmailing douchebag. I'm always left crying out of confusion of why he's mad and he's always the one finding it more and more easy to turn me out. One day he wants to be the father of my kids (we're not married) and the next he threatens to leave.
I'm also been on the highest of the high on cloud 9 and the most painstaking, hand shaking, freaking out, crying obsessively, considering suicide with this man. I'm too damn stubborn to leave him, but it's getting easier to accept the fact that I'm not the one for him. He was raised in a most-definitely broken home (beaten up from dad 1 and dad 2). He's seen life's good, bad, and ugly i.e. been homeless before. I'm your typical girl raised catholic, but I have a lot going for me. I mean, it's not like I would have trouble finding a male suitor (we make a really good looking couple). But, he says our relationship's highs and lows are all on me: that I decide how our relationship goes. I think that's total bulls***. But, my question is, even though he comes home when he's supposed to, never leaves to go hang out with friends (they're always here!), but doesn't respond to texts and "doesn't like being on the phone at all" never answers, am I to be paranoid?
He says he's never cheated on me, but I did a little underwear sniffing (I know I know – even I didn't think I was going to go there!) on him and recorded the days we had sex and the days we didn't – it didn't add up. His underwear would smell like sex! One day he came home from work and decided to take a shower – I sniffed his underwear, asked him what he was doing earlier, and he was pretty freaked out – but remained calm. He constantly says I can trust him, but I don't know if I can. I mean, ever since the underwear incident I'm not smelling anything like before. I don't want to think he ended it with the mystery girl – I want to think it was all in my head! I'm so confused. I don't know if this man wants to disillusion me to the point where he could cheat and I'd never know. Ugh, please please help. Sorry SOOO LONG
Rereading what I typed sounds confusing, doesn't it? Well, I should add on that when I came back to him and said I didn't believe him on the "not cheating" thing, his body and face got red and tense and we fought for a good 2 hours before he had to go to work. I had signs I thought were plausible! (Later, turns out I was wrong on all of them). But, that night, before he left, he said he was okay with us just being roommates and he wouldn't practice being single until we separated. We ended up on good terms a week later. But, when we do get into those ridiculous fights he says the most nastiest things ever imaginable i.e. "you're retarded" "i could leave and come back in 5 minutes with a new mate" which he denies later. I think it's a blind anger or he's trying to fool me, failing miserably. He wants me to meet him on all levels: emotionally, physically, and spiritually. I'm an Aqua he's a Pisces… does anyone think this could seriously happen?
And he's so freakin' charming and such a flirt! When guys come over he practically manhandles me in front of them (grabbing everywhere) and when girls are over (guy friend's girlfriends) I only get eye contact from him and I have to say his name at least twice for him to recognize my presence. We only kiss in public if there are no girls around, too. I mean..F###. And that whole "Pisces is like Hamlet: My life is a stage" is soooo true with him. He cares what EVERYONE thinks! He's an actor to the public – Mr. Wonderful. I personally don't give two s***s about what you think about me unless you're signing my paycheck. I just don't want to be that psycho girlfriend who goes and does horrendous things after everything is said and done.
oh crap this belongs somewhere else… sorry
haha damn internet. it belongs here