How to know if a Pisces doesn’t like you
December 15, 2006 by Jeffrey Kishner
Are you in a relationship with a Pisces man? Pisces copes by withdrawing into fantasy and mind-altering substances. If you are in a relationship with a Pisces man and he does not like you, he will escape — to the movies, to the local watering hole, or into his own mind, staring out the window while he imagines his ideal woman.
Are you interested in a Pisces man? You’ll know he doesn’t like you if he doesn’t notice you. Pisces is so often in another world that it takes something compelling to bring him back to earth. He can tune someone out if she doesn’t interest him, like a radio that ignores all but one frequency. Or to be more Web2.0: If you’re not on his iTunes playlist or at least recommended in his “Listeners Also Bought” section, then the best you can do is play your song on your MySpace page and hope he responds to your invite.
Comment below: What are the signs you’ve picked up on when a Pisces doesn’t like you?
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Facebook User – the only romantic compatibility chart I could find on astro is a paid one and I dont really want to pay EUR49 for one.
But that quote you found is interesting, especially as my experinece of Pisces is totally different. One is just a very good friend and he is a good listener but HATES talking about his emotions. Can’t express himself at all. Internalizes everything, and the ones I know are all party people, very masculine.
They definitely are sensitive, but tend not to show it. And they hardly very rarely let people know what they are REALLY thinking. I think they are very manipulative actually. Both Pisces I know, never cry. One hadn’t cried since watching the Lion King when he was like 7 and the other one last cried at a film during BAMBI when it first came out like 30 years ago.
cancergirl,
try signing up to the site first. After you’ve done that, go to the section that is called “free horoscopes”, there you can find everything that is free for good analysis on charts. You’ll want to do the ones that have “AstroClick” in the phrase, especially AstroClick Love. That one lets you compare you and your significant other’s chart together. But you’ll also have to know time of birth for both of you to do accurately, because of rising and house placements.
I hope this helps you out a bit…
Facebook User – thanks for thee tip! I’ve actually been a member of astro.com for many years now and that’s where I got our chart info from
The free horoscope section and free charts are all just short reports, not very succinct or that in-depth but I’ll have another look.
I wish I had an astrologer friend who can analyse charts properly instead of relying on software machine.
But here is some more info on a Pisces, especially if they are in love:
“The right person for a Pisces would preferably be one that can be organised. Pay the bills on time, make sure the children see the Dentist and that there is enough food in the house. And that’s just for starters. The Pisces also needs a partner who will appreciate the creative side which is so characteristic of this sign, someone who will understand your deep emotions, such deep emotions.
These people really are lovely to know. They will always care for you and your world, and help out anyone who shows signs of needing it. They can however, forget themselves and this can lead to quite a low feeling and even depression. The Pisces loves beauty and is drawn to it, even in places where most of us mortals would never see it, the Pisces see’s beauty everywhere.
I feel it would also be wise if the gentle Pisces was to pair up with someone who has a somewhat happy disposition and positive attitude, as this Water Sign act’s a bit like a mirror towards feeling and atmosphere, and therefore would reap the benefits of an uplifting soul. Being around too much sadness and tension can cause this Fish to suffer unnecessary inward pain.
When the Pisces is in love then life is good. Whoever is the girl/boyfriend of this sign will in their eyes be perfect and can do no wrong. The Pisces lays in bed at night dreaming of themselves and their love running through fields of poppies holding hands and taking in the sunny rays of the most beautiful day in the whole world. And if only it would stay that way. If only. And of-course it might, if it’s the right person. But we all know that it can take a long time to find our Miss or Mr Right. And that is when the Pisces can fall apart. When the ideal he/she has been dreaming of comes crumbling down.
If your planning a family with a Pisces then I suggest that you will have to be the one who gives discipline, as your Pisces will not really be very good at that part. However, the Children will always feel loved and can learn a lot from their Water Sign Mother or Father. Pisces parents will stick by their children no matter what and will always be right by their side. Their houses may be full of animals of some kind though, mainly strays or other people’s pet’s that they can no longer look after themselves. So if your allergic to cat’s and Dog’s best sit in their lovely garden..with the..ducks?
It is my opinion that these beautifully fluid creatures can be rather quirky as well. There is always something quite “mad hatter” about them. It’s wonderful. You know those jumpers your Nan used to knit that you always stored away up in the far away recesses of the attic? well, the Pisces is one of those people who will wear them. They often dress in a style they have devised themselves and are in no way embarrassed about that. Saying that, Pisces people always look amazing, something about them is just “right”.
So, to love this emotional sign is quite easy. Who couldn’t fall for someone so very mystical and unusual. Enjoy!!”
http://www.love-astrology.com/astrology/love/pisces-in-love/
leo female,
your guy’s chart is very similar to mine. I am also a Pisces sun, moon in Capricorn and mars in Pisces. I am very stable in relationships and I DO NOT cheat whatsoever. When I know what or who I want, I am very steadfast about it and I do not give wishy/washy or vague ideas. I will say this though. I do not like games to be played with my heart and will build up a protective wall if I feel that this person has less than sincere intentions or is too selfish to return the type of love that I give. I think your guy has a great chart for a good relationship plus he has his venus in Taurus which is also stubborn but stable. Mars in Pisces means he must be good in bed. That moon in Capricorn makes him a little less lazy than most Pisces men can be and a little more ambitious than most Pisces men as well. That moon in Capricorn also means that dep down he wants a relationship, one that is stable and that he can rely on, one that he can have a future with. I think once you get his heart, its yours for life, as long as you dont abuse it which many Leos are capable of when they know that their partners love them to a certain degree. Oh, and we do not like or tolerate disrespect especially with that moon in Cap, I hope you are not like many Leos with that crazy temper or tendency to say hurtful and mean things in an argument because we will never forgive you for it and will start thinking of moving on…and eventually will.
Rhiannon, I deleted your post because it is a violation of CafeAstrology’s copyright. In the future, please just link to the article and share your thoughts about it.
I have to disagree thay for me anyway that my Virgo Moon makes me uncomfortable with my sexuality. i might not walk around half naked like a lot of women seem to think it’s ok to do these days but I can’t turn off the sex!!! It just doesn’t stop and I love it….
Ms. Pisces-
I would love to know if Mars in Pisces is good in bed-but I think he’s afraid to go there cause he knows then he will really be hooked. Either that or he has huge performance anxiety!
No I have grown in recent years and learned to move past some of the less desireable Leo traits. I have always been careful with what I say to him, especially since most of our deeper convo’s have been in email; hard to interpret email. He on the other hand can be very blunt and irascible which is why I have never believed all that hog wash about Pisces being so sensitive. Anyway, for the first time in two years tho, yesterday, I let it out cause he seems to totally disregard my feelings. I called him an a**hole.
Anyway, I have his heart, he told me he loved me a couple of weeks ago. All of my friends think it was just more of his bullsh*t but I believed him. I have stuck by him through thick and thin and I’m sure that means something to him although a little part of me can’t help think he is playing with my heart.
Unfortunately we can’t be together because we are both involved elsewhere. Right or wrong it is what it is. We are just drawn to each other like moth’s to a flame. Whenever I think it’s over or I’ve had enough he comes back…..just not sure I want to play the game anymore…..
WHile you guys are at it…. check this out
his chart (birth time is unknown)
Zodiac in degrees 0.00 Time unknown
Sun Pisces 14.34
Moon Sagittarius 5.03
Mercury Aquarius 27.37
Venus Aries 13.18
Mars Aries 6.42
Jupiter Sagittarius 10.10
Saturn Scorpio 4.03 R
Uranus Sagittarius 9.05
Neptune Sagittarius 29.03
Pluto Libra 29.14 R
Lilith Capricorn 28.41
Asc node Cancer 1.22
My chart
Zodiac in degrees 0.00 Placidus Orb:0
Sun Virgo 2.51 Ascendant Scorpio 14.56
Moon Libra 16.01 II Sagittarius 14.35
Mercury Leo 16.57 III Capricorn 18.34
Venus Virgo 3.10 IV Aquarius 24.22
Mars Cancer 11.52 V Pisces 26.45
Jupiter Leo 22.58 VI Aries 23.21
Saturn Virgo 15.24 VII Taurus 14.56
Uranus Scorpio 17.20 VIII Gemini 14.35
Neptune Sagittarius 17.44 R IX Cancer 18.34
Pluto Libra 17.26 Midheaven Leo 24.22
Lilith Virgo 5.19 XI Virgo 26.45
Asc node Virgo 8.25 XII Libra 23.21
Just right off the bat, the thing I notice and that you should be glad of is that his Venus/Mars are both in Aries, a fire sign, very masculine. As opposed to my ex’s both Venus/Mars being in Pisces.. Helps alot with the male/female dynamics. Since yours are in air and water, this tends to be naturally feminine, whereas mine are both in fire, which made me take the more agressve approach. In the end, this caused issues to have the him, the guy with the feminine/watery signs and the woman, me, with the masculine/fire signs. Yours lends itself to the man taking the lead and the woman being more responsive, which for most couples, works better over the long haul.
Hey ladies,
As i hurt my back in at the gym-i’ve had the perfect excuse to the catch up on all the trouble these ‘fishy men’ have been causing
I’ve not spoken to my ’slippery fish’ since early November.He called in December but i ignored the call.Was out with a female friend and saw him 3 weeks ago-totally ignored him.Guess who’s been texting and calling again? Can’t believe this guy is turning 39 soon.
Anyway,girls what do you reckon to our charts? Despite everything i really felt myself with him and miss him soooo much,and think about him everyday.
ME
Star sign Capricorn
Raising sign Taurus
Moon Taurus
Mercury Sagittarius
Venus Sagittarius
Mars Leo
Jupiter Cancer
Saturn Virgo
Uranus Scorpio
Neptune Sagittarius
Pluto Libra
N. Node Libra
HIM
Star sign Pisces
Raising sign Leo
Moon Libra
Mercury Pisces
Venus Aquarius
Mars Leo
Jupiter Pisces
Saturn Aquarius
Uranus Virgo
Neptune Scorpio
Pluto Virgo
N. Node Cancer
Any tips/advice greatly recieved xxx
shana.j…
I understand where you are coming from and don’t have the time at this moment to get into your chart analysis too much, but the first thing that comes to mind is that I honestly believe, being a Pisces myself and having the Pisces ex, that once a Pisces feels connected to someone, that feeling itself never ends. To me, with the ex boyfriends to which I had any level of connection, it is like they all occupy a different space in my heart forever and always will. The deal is, if there is a really deep bond, especially on a spiritual level and including, physical, emotional and mental, it is absolutely impossible to not have that feeling on a conscious level daily. Especially when the breakup has been recent, but even past that. And it was absolutely the deepest with my Pisces ex. So, there is always the temptation to want to recreate the connective experiences and with Pisces being a rather “addictive” and “escapist” sign, it is strong. For us, it is strong on both of our parts…of this, I am absolutely certain.
When my ex Pisces guy came back to me after months of no communication, his email to me said “I’ve thought about that tub more than once” referring to lovemaking in my hot tub, the normal place for two fish to spend hours at a time. My translation, knowing him, was that I am certain he thought about me as much as I thought about him and still do. Especially when in my hot tub!
After giving it a second go, now over a year ago, do I think about him all the time? Yes, even though I now have the absolute best boyfriend I’ve ever had, feel 100% certain that this is the man I will spend the rest of my life with. I am in my early 50’s and though married 20 years, (to a Cancer) have been divorced and actively dating, in several relationships, in the dozen years since. My point being, the connection we had was so deep and all consuming on every level that I know that I will be forever reminded of him especially when in the water, which I am often!
So, in summary, it is normal for him (and you, due to my comments above) to feel a strong urge to reconnect. With his Leo rising (my boyfriend is a Leo sun and Venus), he will have the initiate to reconnect, as did my Pisces ex, a Sag rising…giving these guys enough fire to do so. My advice, however, is to stay strong, for the Pisces man is EXTREMELY enticing. Thank God, mine has not since made a strong effort (though he has sort of made him self available by being where he knew I would be twice, without a date…his Venus/Mars both being in Pisces, so a less aggressive way of expressing love/male energy) to get back together. I am soooooo happy with my current boyfriend and feel we have the best relationship any couple ever could. That being said, it would be very tempting (though I am all about monogamy and have never cheated on a guy)if my ex Pisces made a strong move. I feel that the wise thing to do is realize that the depth of that experience is impossible to recreate with anyone else, but have found a way to at least experience intimacy in a way with my current guy that is unique to us. And to be grateful that it is wonderful (and easy, as opposed to my Pisces ex!) for us on a practical, day to day existence! I cannot tell you how wonderful it is to have communication that is normal and frequent, not vague and/or nonexistent, as was the case with my Pisces ex!
So, my advice…keep him in your heart and soul in his own special place. But live your life with him tucked away there and find a guy who adores you, treats you with respect and loves you in a way that you can feel secure in. Know that I can say this and still understand how you feel. Hope this helps and best to you and all of you other gals!
Hi Shana J
Im not a guy fish Im a girl fish and I feel I have some insight that could help you.
First off your ascendants: How you view the world, your outlook how others see you
Hes got leo rising, outwardly he will sunny bright, vain arrogant firerising will give him a daredevil. His sun and asc are not in harmony he will appear VERY different as to what he is
You on the other hand have all your luminaries in earth. Im willing to bet a nickel your the type that takes a while to get to know . Thats not attack btw.because your sun and asc are in harmony you on the other hand are very as you are there are no other sides with you , your sag merc will give you a blunt edge though
His leo asc will probably drive your tarus rising up the wall with cos hes a party animal whereas you are more grounded
Another thing I notice is his mercury:Pisces conjunct his sun so he knows how to talk a good game and will be animated when speaking but very hard to pin down to what he is thinkingthe smooth talker aspect will be helped with his leo rising expect as it is in pisces pin him down and he will with draw( had he merc in aqua or aries that would be a different story it would have given him a far rougher edge rather than just being a smooth talker . Very frustrating your more straight shooting sag mercury :S
Key point he will rarely verbalise his feelings with this mercury try to understand hes not going to always be able to find the words, yet he will be beautifully creative, let him have his space with his thoughts he will come back and will love you because your the earth that is his rock. But dont make the mistaake of thinking he is weak he is not, fish can be the ultimate survivors he is far tougher than you think he will be your support when you are feeling down as much as you are his providing you dont force practicality on him.
Neptune in scorpio will give a tough streak could be very manipulative if you let him
Venus is also something I notice in his chart. venus governs love and social interactions. This will greatly modify his water it will give a cool logical streak. Word of warning this placement adds a seriously kinky streak( this is the rebelious placement)socially he will probably prefer a group to one close friends he will likely dislike emotions with this placement and will hate conformity with a passion ( I should know I have this venus:)) but it will give him a humantiarian streak he will be hard to get close to for fear of relying on one person
Your moons are also at discord ( Taurus libra) his airy emotions could frustrate your sense of groundness but will get your sense of logic( be thankful he doesnt have moon in a fire sign ( disaster)
My last piece of advice know what is absolutley big important to you that you will not comprimise on or put up with and tell him in clear terms anything else is the stuff that doesnt bother you so much and you can let slide. Fish dont do details but we listen if it is something big
Best of luck I hope I have been of some help
Hey Ladies,
Thanks for your replies-much appreciated feel like i have a greater insight into how he ‘ticks’.You guys really know alot about this stuff.
@ Karen
“once a Pisces feels connected to someone, that feeling itself never ends”
He would always say what a great connection we had,and we would finish each others sentences and there was no need for second guessing each other.Then nothing!
“When my ex Pisces guy came back to me after months of no communication”
“I cannot tell you how wonderful it is to have communication that is normal and frequent, not vague and/or nonexistent, as was the case with my Pisces ex!”
So i’m guessing its normal not to hear from a fishy guy for months on end? Thats the part that really hurts,when he disappears off the face of the earth i feel so rejected,unwanted.As a Cap,nothing drives me madder than the thought of wasting time,once its wasted i can not get it back lol;)
“find a guy who adores you, treats you with respect and loves you in a way that you can feel secure in”
I don’t feel secure about him i guess,i did at first before he started disappearing on me.Apart from the disappearing acts he is my ideal guy.Maybe the disappearing acts are the tradeoff? Can’t have everything my own way.I also feel he is insecure about my age i’m 29 he will be 39 soon.He always mentions it,maybe as an escape route?
@abc123
“Hes got leo rising, outwardly he will sunny bright, vain arrogant firerising will give him a daredevil. His sun and asc are not in harmony he will appear VERY different as to what he is”
Very true he is somewhat shy but very bold at the same time.Has a BIG arrogant streak -his way is always right and everyone else is wrong.I always got the feeling his biggest battle is with himself.Now it makes sense.
“You on the other hand have all your luminaries in earth. Im willing to bet a nickel your the type that takes a while to get to know . Thats not attack btw.because your sun and asc are in harmony you on the other hand are very as you are there are no other sides with you , your sag merc will give you a blunt edge though”
Spot on abc123! i’m not an open book type of person-never will be.Most people seem to think i’m worth getting to know
time will tell if Mr Fish really thinks the same.Iam very blunt try to curb my tongue with Mr Fish,as i know words can really hurt him deeply.Even though we have never had harsh words,he still wants to escape.
“But dont make the mistaake of thinking he is weak he is not, fish can be the ultimate survivors he is far tougher than you”
No, would never think of him as weak he is VERY strong mentally and phyiscally (sorry about the spelling) but he does have a gentle heart.
“Venus is also something I notice in his chart. venus governs love and social interactions. This will greatly modify his water it will give a cool logical streak. Word of warning this placement adds a seriously kinky streak”
Yep,hes kinky alright-not that i minded
I do believe what i read somewhere on this site that having venus in aquarius means men with this plcement can be detached with their emotions.They don’t like clingy women,i don’t think i have been clingy would being aloof make me more attractive in his eyes?
Thanks for your help ladies xxx
So even though I’m throughly aware of how the male pisces mind works, my current guy with a Gemini moon, seems to be in this dark moon phase sometimes. I’ll add some back story: he and his ex broke up about a few weeks before we ran into each other at a local fire house charity event. We ironically went to the same high school and same graduating class, never spoken a word, never had a class together, never taken the same bus, but we had a handful of similar friends in common (ex- he was friends with people that I was friends with). Basically he told me the night we ran into each other that he had always noticed me back in high all the time and I barely remember him! He was a jock and had tons of friends, he was senior year in homecoming court for goodness sakes! haha anyway, this all happened, the run-in, back in November of last year. From what his brother’s girlfriend ended up spilling to me was that he was soooo nervous to come to talk to me that as soon as I get up to get a drink at the bar, he would attempt and he actually told her “i can’t do this, I literally feel as though my heart is going to beat out of my chest, I can’t do this, no!!! omg I’m too nervous!”, which completely made me realize that this guy was never nervous in high school, was outgoing and laid-back, would always have something to say and wouldn’t care and just walk up to people sometimes. Yet he was too nervous to talk to me!? haha
And so because of the whole ex gf situation and how much he probably has feelings for me on some level, makes me tread lightly. I’m not in need of commitment or anything (every gemini and pisces dream! lol), but I haven’t seen in 3 weeks, no biggie, got out of relationship, ironically with another pisces in august (yeah those fishes like swimming my way too often haha!). So basically if I don’t see him in about two weeks, his birthday is on march 7th, I may actually pull out my scorpio moon emotions and sting the poor fella with my emotions, I really don’t want to have to do that, cause I believe that it would be awesome to see him on his birthday. I just get that vibe (ahh I have too much water in my chart), that he wants to move on but can’t cause from the notion I get and from what people tell me, she really did a number at him the last few weeks together. I even get the feeling she left him or she cheated on him in some way. Anyway, he was amazing come new years eve, we never kissed in front of anyone before and we never had been very affectionate in front of anyone before hand, so when it hit midnight, about a minute after we said “happy new year” to everyone, he came over and everyone was able to see this, but he not only kissed me, he KISSED me on the lips! haha that was quit a night…
Anyway, ever since then it has either then a full on entangled moment of bliss or nothing at all. I’m not confused nor am I worried, but I just keep thinking if that ex of his will be the reason why nothing happens to bring us closer. I know that pisces don’t ever forget a love that has deeply affected them, and I have a bunch of major pisces placements in my chart (thank you rising and venus!), but the thing is I guess when push comes to shove, how do you know when to bring up such a thing without mentioning the EXACT topic at hand without ruffling scales on the fish?
shanaj…
Here was your statement that I’ll address…”So i’m guessing its normal not to hear from a fishy guy for months on end? Thats the part that really hurts,when he disappears off the face of the earth i feel so rejected,unwanted.
My answer is unfortunately, yes, this is completely typical. I went through this during the time we were dating and after both breakups. The bad part is when I would try to communicate with him and not hear back while we were dating, is that I had to make assumptions and the entire reason for our first break up was that I made an assumption that we weren’t going to be together and made other holiday plans for Thanksgiving. He had pulled back, in my opinion. When I asked him about anything at all, he would say he didn’t want to have to explain. What little he did say was so elusive and vague, that it was always like a riddle to try to figure out what he meant. Nothing was ever clearly stated and he would get irritated when I asked for clarification. So, what happens? The day after i make these plans is the night he chooses to finally tell me how much he loves me in words, not just looks and actions. Then when I tell him of my holiday plans, he ends up walking out.
That was on Halloween. After trying to talk with him for a couple of weeks after that, on 11/16, this is what he emailed to me…
“Talking with you is no problem, just please dont ask to go back there, please dont make me explain more…thats the thing….all the explaining and going round and round. cant do it. Hope all s well. Talk later.”
So I think he’s willing to talk based on that information, right? Well, I hear not a word from him after emailing him and leaving voice messages until this email which arrives on 12/24, Christmas Eve.
“Sorry its taken this long to get back with you. s*** happens, and it s been happening in spades, starting with…. And moving, and cleaning, and madness, that i really wasnt in the mood to discuss or explain”.
By this point, I am shocked to hear from him at all. And so, the next day, on Christmas Day, he emails me that I can call him if I want. We end up getting back together, which lasted only until the day after New Year’s Day. And this time, again, he refuses to talk about it, doesn’t want to explain anything, even though the basis for this break up is nothing, a ridiculous reason.
My point being that the total disappearing acts are what you can expect and that you will never understand what the hell happened because these guys just won’t explain. My own opinion is that they really don’t understand themselves all that well because they are ruled by their emotions, which fluctuate. And hell yeah, it hurts because you take it personally, when really it is about them, not you. And of course you feel rejected and unwanted, normal feelings to have.
One thing that has been discussed on here is the extent to which male and female fishes differ. The thing we have in common is expression of emotions in the moment. But unlike the guys, I believe that most of us Pisces gals don’t pull back. It’s like the typical guy in his cave thing, only to the MAX! They truly hide out and really do just disappear. When they come out, you never know what was going on. As a woman, I just don’t get this.
Communication is my strength, his weakness. Both his and my Mercury (thought and communication) are in Aquarius, which would make you think we would communicate well. Which we did nonverbally, but not in the talking realm, at least not him. This placement lends itself to being unconventional in self expression and due to the paradoxical Aquarian nature, it’s a Mercury that can get stuck in a narrow grove of thinking, dismissive of other opinions. Which he ended up doing, making his own interpretations, which he didn’t bother to ever clarify for me. And still hasn’t, even though it has now been over a year. He told me we could have a conversation, which never did happen and he avoided when we did have a couple of opportunities to do so.
So, in summary, if you can deal with all of this, you are doing better than me. If there’s one thing I hate, it is misunderstandings. And in daily life with him, not in our water arena in which he was so open, all there were were misunderstandings. I love that my current Leo guy communicates regularly and that we can talk about any and everything. In the one difficult situation that has come up, he was willing to stay up talking about it until we got it resolved. And in doing so, when he “got” that he had made an error, he admitted it, said he was sorry with tears in his eyes. And we got past it, kissed and made up. All in one sitting. This would have NEVER happened, ever, with my Pisces ex. Nothing was ever resolved. For me, that left me with no closure to the ending of our relationship, which has been really difficult and time consuming. And again, I am left with only assumptions. So, think hard about this, before your heart gets even more involved, is my advice.
Hey there Karen,
Thanks so much for your reply
-it really gave me alot to think about.
“So, think hard about this, before your heart gets even more involved, is my advice.”
Been thinking about this alot,even though he is “trying to get on back” on the scence at the moment-deep down i feel as soon as i drop my guard and pay attention to him he’ll be off again.
His favourite saying is “i do want i what to do,what feels right for me”.
He says he misses me and yet he can go for 4 wks at a time with no form of communication whats so ever.I find this really strange.
Interesting passage from “do piseans want what they can’t have thread”
“Pisces CRAVE alone time. If you take that away or take away what relaxes them on their downtime, then you have most likely wounded the fish and made him want to swim away from you. If you are the type that needs to be with him 24/7 or have a phone call everyday, then you really are dealing with the wrong guy.”
Although i don’t want a phone call everyday-once a week or fortnight would be nice.I understand people wanting time alone -but disappearing off the face of the earth?? Not sure my nerves can take it.I’m just going to focus on having fun with my girlfriends at the moment and try to forget him.
But thats the thing just when i start to forget about him -up he pops! it’s as if he knows.
Thanks again xx
Shana J-
Same sitch here….and I feel the same way. I don’t need to hear from him every day but yeh, once a week would be nice especially when you consider that he used to email me everyday ALL DAY. Now, I’m supposed to be so hooked that once every month or so is enough??? I don’t think so.
Then he tells me he loves me and disappears. And I’m supposed to figure that is love? Not on this planet.
Everybody craves alone time…but when you love someone I don’t care what your sign is, you don’t disappear.
Hi Leo Female,
Your post reminded me of something i had about pisces on http://www.astrology-insight.com.
“Pisces and heartbreak
In the emotional area, they are inwardly full of affection and easy to get along with but they produce a series of contradictions. One being that while they have a strong desire for romance, THEY WILL SUDDENLY THROW ON THE BRAKES FOR NO APPARENT REASON.”
Which is exactly what my fish did,ah well his birthday is in a couple of days,at least i’ll save some money (won’t get him a present
) might treat myself to some new shoes 
shana.j-
lol new shoes!!! good for you…..
waiting for a pisces man to show his affection is like waiting for rain in a drought…..
Well, in reading all y’alls different charts and compatibilities I decided to do my own via a chart and an astrology 101 book. Ironically, haha…well not so ironically my Pisces is mainly all water and I’m mainly all air….I’m an Aquarius. So, we don’t get fully get along because of the whole “emotional/emotionally aloof” traits – which reign very true I might add. But, I’m also glad I got into the depths of Astrology because it really is true. I can now read people lol I don’t even need to ask their birthdays! Anyhow, and yes Pisces males are difficult…and shady. Secrets aren’t sexy. They’re shady.
Hey Ladies,
@leo Female,
“waiting for a pisces man to show his affection is like waiting for rain in a drought…..”
good one,it’s either FEAST calls etc,everyday or FAMINE nothing (he he died?) with these fishy guys.
Well its my fishy friends birthday today he is 39-thats (19 and a half in man years)i didn’t call or send a msg.See how you like that slippery fish!.Although he has reappeared still not sure he is worth the hassle.
sorry should have read ‘good one,it’s either FEAST calls etc,everyday or FAMINE nothing (oh he’s STILL alive??? why haven’t i heard from him?) with these fishy guys
yeah, me too. why haven’t i heard from him. this is love????
To Jeff,
Just read the ‘How to break up with an Fire/Earth/Air sign’ articles is there going to be a ‘How to break up with a Water sign’ article too??
Hope so
shana.j – the author of those articles is no longer writing for Sasstrology. There is a breakups page, but it doesn’t have much on Water signs. I’ll keep your idea in mind for future posts.
Thanks Jeff,
You’re a star !
shana j.
I think you’re getting the hang of it..
Your comment “Although i don’t want a phone call everyday-once a week or fortnight would be nice.I understand people wanting time alone -but disappearing off the face of the earth??” And Ms. Leo’s “Then he tells me he loves me and disappears. And I’m supposed to figure that is love? Not on this planet. Everybody craves alone time…but when you love someone I don’t care what your sign is, you don’t disappear.”
Hell, yeah, I totally agree! And I still say that as a Pisces female, I still TOTALLY don’t get this!! It makes no sense and yes, mine did it, too. It seems that is the trait that Pisces guys seem to embody the most. Jeffrey, you being a guy and an astrology expert, can you PLEASE explain this to all of us clueless gals??
And then you go on to say..
“In the emotional area, they are inwardly full of affection and easy to get along with but they produce a series of contradictions. One being that while they have a strong desire for romance, THEY WILL SUDDENLY THROW ON THE BRAKES FOR NO APPARENT REASON.”
So, again, Jeffrey, what is this about? Just plain old feeling vulnerable? That is what makes sense (well, not really, but at least it makes sense in the male world, maybe) to me. Personally, I think that the more they feel for you, the more apt they are to totally halt it, due to the vulnerablilty issue.
And why all the contradictions? Because they really don’t know themselves? My guess..
Gee, all of this is making me sooo appreciative of my Leo guy. Still gotta admit, though.. the magic moments, though I think of them less often, still exist in my memories. But hey, even as a Pisces, I realize I have to live in the real world instead of the fantasy one..
Karen,
Maybe, as a Pisces who realizes you have to live in the real world, you could host an online self help class for Pisces males who don’t yet realize that??
Huh?? Yeah?? What do you think??
“In the emotional area, they are inwardly full of affection and easy to get along with but they produce a series of contradictions. One being that while they have a strong desire for romance, they will suddenly throw on the brakes for no apparent reason…”
This is very true. If they feel you are making their fantasy with you not happen (aka-bring in reality), trying to make them feel more then they are ready for, force a commitment that they don’t want, or they got bored with you too easily, they retreat into their black hole. When that happens, they will avoid you like the plague till THEY feel it’s okay, not what you feel, how they feel. Also if the fish was involved with someone else before meeting you or they were when they met you, they won’t invest everything into it. They will lay on the romance, the sweet talk, make you feel like you are perfect in their eyes, but it won’t last. Pisces males really have that child mentality about relationships and the associations with “feelings” that come with it. They want to have all the fun, but none of the work, unless he is sure he has found “the one” he wants to be with forever.
But be careful ladies, if the guy starts to contradict himself with his actions and emotions, he is confused about you or has already decided where you stand with him, sometimes it’s a 50/50 shot you’ll be considered his girl if this is already happening. Also Pisces males don’t blind side a woman, I think most of you don’t realize this, but when they do it, it’s cause they already have been thinking for week or months, but IGNORED everything till one day, that’s when he leaves. Pisces males ignore problems till they can’t no more, then they run away from whomever the problem revolves around. That could mean drugs, alcohol, another women, lots of sex with other women, etc… whatever they choose to do, if it’s not with you, you are not on his mind…
Also Pisces males are passive about communication, but hate having women chase them. Hence why they have the two fishes swimming opposite directions and that’s why they are contradictions. If they ask you to call, call them. If they don’t, don’t call them. But if they complain about you not calling when they didn’t ask, just know that you have to READ into what they said in that last conversation. Pisces are sneaky like that…. it’s one of the mental tests they will put you through to see if you can put up with their bull and if you do, that’s one reason they might leave.
Also I know a lot of Pisces males and they are very smart guys, most of them have either a water or air moon, but boy oh boy, they are smart cookies! So in other words, they want a smart woman, doesn’t have to have a degree, but not a blond bimbo or an airhead, cause they do like to talk these guys and love a woman that is very diverse in everything…
Hey Ladies,
Hope all is well,
@ Karen,
Thanks so much for your response
“Jeffrey, you being a guy and an astrology expert, can you PLEASE explain this to all of us clueless gals??” (Pisces males lack of communication).
Lol! c’mon Jeff you must be able to shed some much needed light on the working of the male pisces mind
“Personally, I think that the more they feel for you, the more apt they are to totally halt it, due to the vulnerablilty issue”
We’ll all vulnerable when it comes to the game of love…but i have noticed with the fishy guys i know,they paint themselves as good guys but they tend to do what suits them,at a time that suits them.To hell with what anyone else wants or needs.Take the fishy guy i was into,forgot my birthday so i ignorned the fact it was his birthday the week before last.When i spoke to him soon after he was really upset i’d forgotton his birthday wtf?????
@ Facebook User
“Pisces males really have that child mentality about relationships and the associations with “feelings” that come with it. They want to have all the fun, but none of the work, unless he is sure he has found “the one” he wants to be with forever. ”
Totally agree,but i think male fish really live in a dream world -and want their mate to be perfect.Perfect does not exist!As soon as the honeymoon period wears off they become bored and start to drift away
But due to their cowardly streak they avoid the breakup talk and just disappear.If you are REALLY lucky when the ex they dumped you for dumps them (again) OR they find out she is even more flawed then you-they come back and expect to be welcomed with open arms,and just pick up from where they left? !?!
“Also Pisces males are passive about communication, but hate having women chase them”
Too true-he doesn’t want to be the hunter but doesn’t want to be the hunted either.How is that supposed to work???
How is a relationship supposed to grow,thrive with such ‘patchy’ communication which is what the pisces male offers?
As Leo Female said “waiting for a pisces man to show his affection is like waiting for rain in a drought…..”
“Pisces are sneaky like that…. it’s one of the mental tests they will put you through to see if you can put up with their bull and if you do, that’s one reason they might leave.”
I often got the feeling i was being ‘tested’ which as i straight taking earth sign this wound me up beyond belief! Just say whats on your mind!So much of my days would be ruined because i’d be upset about the way he messed with my head.
Pisces men (imo) expect alot but have very little to offer if you want a long term,equal relationship.
I haven’t really been following the discussion closely, but here’s my take on Pisces men’s lack of communication: Pisces has an inner-focused, hidden quality, lives his life internally much of the time, in his imagination. As such he doesn’t feel compelled to communicate what’s going on in his mind, and when he does, it’s likely to be in an indirect, more artistic manner, so he’ll be obtuse about the issues he’s experiencing.
Wow…
Such a discussion and so damn complicated! Which I don’t miss at all! As you said, shana j. “So much of my days would be ruined because i’d be upset about the way he messed with my head.” God, how I remember the thousands of hours I spent in an analytical mode just trying to understand him…and still don’t! Jeffrey, thanks for your insight, but I have to admit, as a Pisces female, this is still really confusing! I am not saying you aren’t right, because you are! It is (or was), exactly as you said, “As such he doesn’t feel compelled to communicate what’s going on in his mind, and when he does, it’s likely to be in an indirect, more artistic manner, so he’ll be obtuse about the issues he’s experiencing.” Mine was actually, professionally, an artist and musician and told me on numerous occasions that just as you state, he didn’t feel compelled to communicate what was going on in his mind. And when he said anything, it was soooo vague and he was offended when I asked him to explain ANYTHING!
But, Jeffrey, why??? I am also a Pisces, as I have said, and I am NOTHING like this, in fact, I am the opposite. If anything, I am overly communicative and extremely open. Which is diametrically opposed to my ex. The only explanations I can come up with is first, the fact that I have lots more fire, a grand trine, in fact, in my chart, while his is almost totally Pisces and other water. Would this account for that much difference?
The only other thing is the male/female thing and yes, I have seen other astrological signs play out differently depending on gender, but gees, not to this extent! How big a factor is this and why is it so incredibly moreso with us fish (or dolphins, as we originally were, actually!)?
I appreciate your comment, shana j. about being a Pisces who realizes that I have to live in the real world (though actually the escapism that Pisces are drawn to, is also tempting to me, but more in the realm of fleeing to the Caribbean, rather than escaping as my ex and these guys seem to do!). Actually, in reality, I have thought about trying to teach guys about women and what we want, but I gotta say, that trying to teach my own Sun sign guys would be the greatest challenge of all of the zodiac signs! Ughh! Sorry, I just have a long way to go in understanding this whole disappearing act and all of the other totally true statements that have been made here. All of you are absolutely right.. they don’t want to hunt, but don’t want to be the hunted, they don’t give you any clues as to what’s really going on with them, etc. etc. Everything all of you have said. I know, I have witnessed the exact same things! And does it make any sense? No, not to me, the Pisces woman. I wish I could explain it, but feel that I honestly can’t say that I have ever been this way at all. The closest I have been to it is just feeling maybe overburdened by the world and once in a great while feel like it’s just too much effort to try to explain to someone, but that someone would not be a significant person in my life.
Oddly enough, today (or really yesterday, as it’s after midnight) is my ex’s birthday. I felt like I would take the higher road and send him an email wishing him a happy birthday, regardless. Totally expecting to hear nothing back, just as in last year. No, I have heard nothing from him. And no greeting from him either this year or last as to my birthday, being just a few days before his. It hasn’t upset me, honestly, as it is what I expected. Ironically, also today marks an anniversary day with my current Leo boyfriend, who is sound asleep upstairs in my bed and whom I love immensely. Yes, sadly, we haven’t yet reached that same magic connection that I had with my Pisces ex, especially in the sensuous, spiritual realm. I miss that alot, but given the choice of having a man who communicates, never avoids a discussion if need be, who is always there for me and does his wholehearted best to make me happy, I will take that anyday over the elusive and confusing Pisces male who is very time consuming in just trying to figure out!
Again, I am nonjudgmental with all of you who gals who are still battling this attraction. I understand it one thousand percent and even now, I still battle sometimes those incredible memories of “The Way it Was”. I am also still drawn to trying to fully understand how someone who can be so difficult can also have such an immense draw to them. I have shared about all the wisdom I know to share and still have unresolved issues regarding a full understanding. But it is so deep and I feel such a compassion with all of you dealing with these Pisces guys that I have been unable to avoid responding and still trying to make sense of it all, myself.
Karen,
Now that you mention it, you seem to be more fire then water just by the way you are writing out how you feel about all this. I myself have 48.6% of fire in my chart and 35.9% of water in my chart, so I’m mostly a fire/water chick too.
Yet here is the thing, I’ve noticed that the Pisces males with a lot of air in their chart tend to be more aloof, detached, and get bored easily. And astrology aside, Pisces males that also have had a horrible experience with their mother or no healthy relationship at all, tend to be the most flighty for love and tend to disappear too much. And the ones that had a first love when they were very young, tend to still hold a torch to that girl and even if he talks bad about her, deep down he still loves her. Because of that, it could be the reason his ideals of perfection are so top self for romance.
Oh and I’ve mentioned this before, but I’ll say it again a little differently… if a Pisces male is too detached or has disappear too much, it’s not about the vulnerability, it’s about if his heart has let go of his last love that he gave his heart to in the first place. If he hasn’t, no matter how he says he feels about you or seems like he has moved on, he won’t give you all of himself. All Pisces can get vulnerable if they feel they are making a connection with someone they can trust. Pisces makes do this no matter what you think, every Pisces male I’ve come into contact with, even the confident ones, all were vulnerable with me, but in private.
Anyway, I think you women forget one HUGE thing: Pisces are highly intuitive signs and the more water in their chart the more they will pick up on. So if you are falling too fast for him, don’t trust him enough, still love another and using him, are hiding something too hurtful, or he feels you are too emotional too soon, he will KNOW this by his intuition and blind side you by leaving without a word or no warning. He’ll make the prior day either perfect or like nothing is wrong (Pisces are notorious actors) and get you thinking nothing about, then leave you the next day. You have to realize it was all planned out in someway long before you knew it.
And I’ve talked to many Pisces and know where they are coming from when they leave someone, which is one of my many benefits in understand besides having Pisces in Rising & Venus (1st House) and my moon in Scorpio in Moon & Pluto (8th house).
But anyway, let me explain this all a bit further… see the thing is that Pisces hate hurting someone, so they believe by not saying a word they did the right thing. It sounds childish, but Pisces males have that child like faith for love, they believe in the good of it and what it can do for people. So if they feel that it’s not working they lost faith in what they have for you and feel the need to go set up camp somewhere else and start believing over there instead.
I feel like I’m almost talking in circles trying to explain it to everyone at this point, cause some things I will say are not explainable, actually hard to explain about the Pisces male mind, cause I myself live in my head too like them and for me to explain something is so hard and it comes out vague too, even with the people I’m closest to as well. And I think if you have a lot of water in your chart and you are VERY in touch with your intuition, and I’ve found this to be a huge helpful reason, that things are unspoken and understood with water sun signs easily. Like I can look at my water sign friends and just KNOW exactly what’s going on or people with a lot of water in their chart, this applies to them too. I will say with the last Pisces (Gemini Moon) guy, that we didn’t have to say much to one another to know what was going on half the time, we just knew somethings and never talked about it, but felt like we have on a very subconscious level.
The last thing i can say for now till I see another path of questions or situations being state, that Pisces males that are adrenaline types, that live for high excitement or dangerous activities, usually are the ones that love the feeling of an adrenaline rush when ti comes to love. And once that fades, these type of Pisces will get bored or try to stir up the pot by making you jealous or causing trouble when it’s not needed or just start fights with you for no reason. And if that doesn’t do anything, they will end up leaving you or find ways for you to leave him.
Actually I did forget one last thing and this is the very sneaky thing a Pisces male does, it’s one of those things you actually have to read into, but if a Pisces forces you to break up with him, it’s one of a few things: 1) he can’t stand you anymore and doesn’t know how to end things so he makes you do the dirty work, 2) he is still in love with someone else, 3) he loves you but can’t stand to be with you now and hoping after you are done being mad, you’ll crawl back to him again, 4) he isn’t done having fun and wants all his space back, or 5) he doesn’t see himself with you ever as his wife (that only works if he ever plans on getting married in this lifetime).
Oh they will never tell you any of this, they will also never admit it. Actually you’ll get a vague answer if you wait 5-10 months down the road afterwards or something made up that is close enough to what he really did think, cause he doesn’t want to look like the bad guy and hurt you all at the same time. It’s one of the many selfish special traits they have and that’s why they are such charmers ladies… I do know when he is truly done with you, he won’t even bother to return phone calls, texts, emails, he’ll delete all social network connections, and anything similar. And when that happens, he has already found someone else to love.
But when he hasn’t just think of that song by hinder “lips of an angel”, that’s EXACTLY how they act when they still love someone else, that has always been in their heart since day one…
oh and for anyone wanting to know how much of water, fire, air, or earth you have in your own chart, go to this website right here: http://www.astrotheme.com/elements.php
That can help you understand why you may or may not completely flow with a Pisces male…
Karen,
I am currently dating a Pisces male that matched your description on wanting to end things with me if I didn’t change. He’s asked me to leave him, said he would make me miserable until I did so, and now he’s at the point where he’s comtemplating leaving the relationship. A couple of weeks ago he had went out with his brother for his brother’s birthday..”guy’s night”. We had fought for a few days prior and he stayed out after the bars closed…and came home where I eves-dropped on everything. Apparently my boyfriend had met a girl (and his younger brother mentioned me, so essentially ruined it for him) and came home discussing with one another about the girl and how much he wanted to bang her and that he wanted to hook up with her at a later date. I overhead everything, confronted him on it which he eventually quit denying…started blaming the entire relationship struggles on me and me alone! I don’t want to lose him so I told him I’d work on being a happy and strong and stable-minded person…did that for a couple of days, but just had that voice in the back of my head “is he going to hook up with this girl?” so I confronted him, told him I will not be “faking happiness” if he tells me what his real intentions were/are. He said he had every right to “entertain an idea” and that he hasn’t done anything. That night he also came to me and said “I have no touched a girl, kissed a girl, or slept with a girl. I do not want you to bring this up ever again and no I will not cheat on you because that, alone, will cause so much emotional heartache and pain that I don’t want you to go through”…so..ok.. I said “you break my heart I’ll break your dick” but, I keep hearing things here and there when he talks to his brother or the friend that went with them that night…”private conversations”…I read a text he sent to his bar buddy the other day saying “It’s just gonna be a ride son. I felt it out” to which his friend laughed. I don’t know if, personally, a boyfriend “entertains” an idea might as well mean it’s over or not….If we had a strong, solid, relationship I wouldn’t be questioning too much, but we’ve been trying to figure each other out for the past 2 years and only now, because of the threat that was literally in my face overhearing everything, I am beside myself on what the best thing to do is. I don’t want to be victimized (haha he says he’s the victim, yeah whatever) but I also want to be with this man because he’s brought out so many good qualities in me and taught me a lot about life. This occurred on the 22nd of February, we had the talk a week later, and I’ve been happy and stable since (which has led to sex almost every day). He’s a Pisces sun, Gemini Rising, and I think a Virgo moon (?) 2/25/80 is his birthday. Karen, if you could give some insight it’d be much appreciated.
sorry, FACEBOOK user, not Karen
AquaTrainer,
What is your Sun, Moon, & Rising from your natal chart? That can help in understanding more…
Also from what I’ve read that you posted makes me aware that he has already seen this girl probably since the bar night or he could have seen another girl instead. He probably is aware of you reading his texts and more, cause no Pisces would ever be that silly to let their significant other hear or snoop through their stuff unless they were setting you up, make you the bad guy, and find a reason to accuse you of everything.
The fact that you mentioned he has a Virgo moon means he meticulous with how he handles things emotionally. In other words, he will be critical on some level about you and everything you do emotionally in expression. And that he has a Gemini Rising, this means he is a natural flirt, he can’t help that, but this also means he is prone to being easily bored with a significant other. He likes challenges mentally and when he meets someone for the first time, he charms them, woos them, even makes them laugh and is the life of the party. But after that his mask comes off and the Pisces persona takes over.
I guarantee he already knows you don’t trust him, his intuition probably picked that up, but he is setting you up, so he can play the victim again, by leaving his cell phone in places he KNOWS you would look and have conversations in places he KNOWS is easy to hide near by, he may seem naive, but he is far from it, due to his virgo (moon) and gemini (rising) both ruled by mercury, the sign of the mind, brain, and mental stimulation.
Anyway this is a small information about gemini rising from cafeastrology:
“In one-to-one relationships, Gemini rising people often seek a certain amount of personal freedom and space. They enjoy intellectual debates and exchanging ideas. Although they often demand a fair amount of freedom, they are often just as willing to give their partners room to breathe.”
Basically, if you are trying to reign him in when he isn’t ready, then he will rebel against you…
Also this is to everyone, right now Uranus is going to leave all Pisces (males and female) on May 27th and into all Aries (male and female) till August 18th. Uranus was in Pisces from 2003 and will be up till May 27th 2010. It’ll be back in Pisces till sometime in 2011, then fully moving into Aries for a good 7 years for all aries to be liberated from things that hold them down… thats why all pisces were rebelling, acting detached, and different from what all astrologers say about Pisces these last 8 years…
Facebook User,
Ok, for starters I was wrong with his moon. So that makes him Sun: Pisces Moon: Cancer (not Virgo) and Rising: Gemini. I am Sun: Aquarius Moon: Virgo (I’m the Virgo haha) and Rising: Leo. I’ve compiled our charts before and I’m mostly Air, he’s mostly Water. I don’t want to think he did cheat because I guess I can’t fathom someone being capable of such wicked things! But let me say this, when I’m happy he’s extremely happy and that’s how it’s been every day but one since his guy’s night. He does call me, he does text, I do know what his schedule is. I think the only way he could cheat is if it’s on his lunch break. When I went into the relationship with him EVERYONE who knew him (especially his aqua-pisces cusp brother) said he’s not the cheating type. He’s cheated once, that I know of, on an ex. They were together for 2 years and the were both 19 or 20 years old. He said he was using her for money and they had no connection, whatsoever. He said she was a tomboy and hung out with the guys and that’s not what he wanted nor does he want. The difference between her and I (I gather) is that I’m attractive and I’m there for him and I am a girly girl when his guy friends are around. Long story short, he wanted me because I was a “Smart business woman who cares about her health, is educated, is funny, and is confident”….then after the honeymoon was over I was suddenly “dominating. manly…full of false confidence”. Was I the driver in the seat of my past relationships? Yes. Did anyone ever complain? No. He also likes to turn everything I do or say as an “excuse..justification…LIE” to which I’m like what planet are you from?!?! I don’t lie! I don’t make excuses! People who know me know I’m a real blunt person…and I feel I’m respected, but kept at a distance (which is what I prefer actually). He’s a Pisces…so who doesn’t get their heart touched?! Our relationship came down hill in the beginning because our “disagreements” were termed “fights”. I can’t debate with him. He “knows everything”. Over the past two years, we’ve had issues on him keeping gal friends in his phone who were flirting with him that he never told me about. “Well, they never implied or said they wanted to hang out outside of work”….yeah, no. Read that one! I’ve sniffed his underwear in the past…accused him of cheating after I had a lot of evidence…his first approach was calm…his second approach had every vein in his body turning red! I was in the dog house for a week. This was about 8 or 9 months ago. Right after the guy’s night (a couple of weeks ago) he told me to seperate myself from him…that I’m insecure, screwed up, immature, and depressed all the time. I say “for every action, there’s an equal or opposite reaction”. I was depressed because my boyfriend emotionally and verbally abuses me! I appear immature because no one’s ever ever EVER treated me like this…I’m insecure because you never tell me the truth about anything! Why is it he tells me I can’t have guy friends because “guy’s are only friends with girls if they think they can get some tail from them”… ok then why did you have gal friends that were “just co-workers” you’d talk to? Hmm? A little hypocrital, don’t you think?! Facebook User, with every being in my body I’m afraid I’m in major denial of the fact he’s hooked up with anyone. He actually put a lock on his phone yesterday and didn’t say anything….and yesterday morning I found a guy’s name (he’s done this before) that I’ve never heard of and messed up the numbers…then I went into (omg I’m psycho haha) his brother’s phone and messed with the girl’s number HE had met that night. With the phone logs my boyfriend only called the guy’s name once 1 1/2 wks ago and his brother talked to that girl a total of 3 times since his guy’s night. That was 3 weeks ago….so…I really don’t know. But in his drunken rage he said “who would blame me if I cheated? My girlfriend is always depressed and I’m so miserable!” “I get hit on all day long but I don’t do anything because I’m not single, but maybe I should! I should be single so I can pull in ALL that tail!” Here I am begging for another chance (at the time I had a major test in two days, so). But, later was the conversation where I told him that everything he’s done in the past two years didn’t mean anything compared to what I overhead that night and I felt embarrassed and ashamed…. The past two weeks when I look at him I make myself feel that warmth and lovingness towards him and he’s really reciprocated. But, alas, I get that feeling that he’s unattainable….regardless that I do leg exercises to increase my butt size, take vitamins and minerals, do my daily protein shake, clean the house, walk and feed the animals, making payments on the tv he wanted and the cable needed, do his laundry, buy groceries, and give him money when he’s in a bind. Ugh, I’m worth a lot and I guess I don’t want to..or I’m scared of being a stupid blowup f**k doll. I want him…to want me. He says I need to love myself for that to happen..and not talk about it, but do it. Thing is..I feel I do love myself, but as someone who often times gives out the advice I feel like the smart thing to do would be to leave. I’m stubborn haha and I’m like “I’ve given you all I can..you’re in a better place because of me…love me damnit!” Let me reiterate he’s all things typical Pisces male on top of this…maybe I don’t want to be outsmarted? He says he doesn’t play games…I say he is the game…and I want to win. I want to turn that key to his heart he’s been saying is there and he’s handing it out to me…he wants to love…I want to be loved…I’m trying to have us meet in the middle..and I’m on my “last chance” as of the past two weeks and I don’t plan on messing up. Aquarius and Pisces compatibility…..almost, but not quite.
ok yeah and he’s EXTREMELY good looking! Actually grew out his hair so people wouldn’t be intimated by “the pretty boy”. Real charismatic, flirty, etc. Everywhere I go I get catty chicks. But, he leaves stuff open. He told me of times when girls would hit on him or ask him out, and if he couldn’t or wasn’t interested he’d simply change the subject….ok, that’s like “i’m not saying yes or no…but maybe” Everyone loves the manipulator he is…and he’s said he’s never manilupated me and I say that’s a manipulation right there! He also says the reason we fight so much is because of my confidence LOL oh brother. So, yeah I get the pretty boy a**hole manipulative douchebag that says “hey, aren’t you glad you’re not with an a**hole douchebag?!” Um, I am? It also hurts because I hate confrontation..and I’m not capable of being a beotch to people I care about..so I think he wants me to step up to the plate and stick to my guns in arguments as well…but on the contrary…I do and then…I get told I’m full of excuses and justifying and self-manipulating. Ugh..help lol
AquaTrainer,
After reading EVERYTHING (line for line, word for word lol), I’ve come to a conclusion as to why he is acting the way he is: you like to be in control, are blunt, and crave his admiration of how he loves you all the time. Because of this (you have a leo rising, I have a friend who has the same, she feels like this too) it can cause you too panic when he he doesn’t respond emotionally back to you romantically in some way.
I can say that you did act out a little too much (leo is famous for making you feel the urge to go over top with emotions) and that caused him to react the way he did. The fact that you have no cleared up the air (no pun intended lol), that he has a cancer moon and you have a virgo, yet your chart is made up air mostly and his of water… which means he craves emotional connection with someone and you crave mental stimulation more. Because of this he doesn’t need to tell you everyday how he loves you or feels, he just needs to know you are there, you trust him, and that you express the love physically. You on the other hand with all the air crave conversation, laughter, compliments, and verbal dedication everyday. And thats one BIG reason why you two are not on the same page….
Also aside from astrology, having to go through someone’s phone to check up on someone, should of been an indicator to you that maybe you don’t trust him period. If you trust someone, there is no need to snoop and try and convincer yourself that he is cheating…
Anyway back to the original topic, the fact that you accused him of something, any Pisces that has this happen, will attack back and worse. They have no problem then stripping you down to the real you in the situation that they truly see you as, which can be very hurtful and make you feel like you are naked on stage in front of hundreds of people.
Here is another thing, I have a friend, who when she didn’t want her boyfriend to get mad about what guys she was talking to, she changed their names to be female names and lie about it….
And here is a big thing you must be aware of if you want to keep a Pisces male happy: they don’t like on a schedule… and they don’t like being forced to have one. So if you hate being late or waking up at the same time everyday or HAVE to do the same thing every day, then you’ll bore him, which on top of that will make him think if he stays with you are you going to make him be just as rigid in his life too…. they don’t like being forced into a box for anything in life. You also ended up giving him everything he wanted… that’s the thing, Pisces will soak up and never say a word if they are getting everything handed to them…
I’ve noticed famous couples that did work out who had a Pisces male husband… Demi Moore (Scorpio w/ a Gemini Moon) was married to Bruce Willis (Pisces w/ and Aquarius Moon) for over 10 years… she was strong, confident, was happy with her physical image, didn’t push so hard to look good unless she was working on a movie, and knew how to ooze sexy without even trying. Everybody wanted to be her or have her when she was at her prime in hollywood. Pisces love a woman that is like that and more. They love women who even if they don’t love their body or anything like that, they don’t complain about it. They see that as strong and healthy actually. And they love women that won’t put up with their crap, but won’t be blunt about it either. They like women tact and honesty used together.
Yet here is the thing, even those two split up… yet Demi knew how to keep her cool and not worry too much. She knew how to move on and to Aston Kutcher (Aquarius w/ a Scorpio moon). Talk about your hot pair lol
Anyway… my point is, that you have TOO much air in your chart to go as deep as a Pisces with a lot of water in his chart likes to go. Yet being he has a Gemini rising, it’ll make him want to argue with you just for the heck of it cause he is bored. I have gemini in my chart and i purposely argue cause it’s funny sometimes to see what people might say and to have some mental fun for no reason, more fun when I’m debating with a Gemini (Taurus moon) friend haha.
So back on topic… he was trying to push you into talking the talk, but having you walk the walk in conversations. But I did noticed you just go straight up to him, no warning, but too in his face when trying to prove a point. Now being i have scorpio moon, you may want to try this cause there is some tact to it:
Next time you feel he could be cheating, don’t react let him keep doing what he is doing, make him think you are not bothered, get apathetic on him (in other words, don’t show emotion or go snooping on him). Then wait a few weeks, when he doesn’t expect it, have him sit down for food, then be passive-aggressive, don’t make eye contact and tell him exactly everything you know and stay calm about it. He’ll look as though you are handling this in a mature fashion, that what he does is making him be less of a man, and that you are not playing around this time. When you use grand gestures of emotions to convince him that you are hurt and more, he’ll think you are being out of line and acting like a child, cause don’t stay calm and are causing a scene when you do this, which is why he is being so mean to you in return, you act like a child, he will treat you like one is pretty much his attack style on you.
The reason water signs or people with a lot of water get along so well is because they handle things in a similar fashion: we all stay calm, we don’t loose our cool, and we approach when our intuition says it’s okay. We also know when to walk away and when to fight against the grain. We hold back everything unless we know for sure it’s worth it and we also have very sharp tongues when we are hurt, because we won’t play by the books if you do wound us.
Oh and Pisces male/females are known to be some of the most beautiful signs in the zodiac. My last ex looked like a model that walked off an abercrombie ad… it was the one thing that would always throw me off when i’d try to be serious in conversations cause he was so distraction in how devastatingly beautiful of a man he was…
oh and your guy, his manipulation isn’t Pisces, that’s a Gemini trait right there by the way… Pisces play victims, but they never manipulate anyone to that kind of level… not that I know of… but they won’t cause they have compassion for the entire human race, so they don’t go there…
He is doing a typical Pisces testing string along game… they say all the right things at the worst times… they have this weird fascination with if its not hell for romance, then it’s not right. They like having a roller coaster romance almost as much as scorpio sun/moon/rising people… which is one of the reasons astrologers put those two together as a good match… Pisces males who are not fully mature emotionally will do this to every girlfriend they have. They are moody, detached, romantic, and yet unstable. They are the ultimate unattainable guy in everyone women’s eyes, cause he is that handsome, broody, deep soul kind of guy those Pisces. But that’s the thing, only water based chart people will understand why this is and know why they won’t change or dare close him in, especially people with a lot of pisces in their chart. I love Pisces males just the way they are 9 times out of 10. I don’t think I would ever change one that I’ve met over my 22 years of living (soon to be 23 lol).
I mean some have driven me to the point of tears, while others have driven me to the point of being fits of laughter. But I wouldn’t change them, I’d let my experiences i have with them change them… that’s how one way it flows naturally with these guys… they like to flow with change, good or bad… they flow with it… anything forced and they back away from it, always. Even if they love someone, if they feel forced emotionally, they will back away.
And you’ve forced him, I’m sorry to say cause you’ve done everything that screams you don’t trust him, you are trying to force him to change his ways, and want him to be the guy you met on day one… you gotta let him be himself, love him even if he isn’t perfect (unconditionally is a pisces trait), and just flow with him…. don’t try and gain control over it anymore, just let it happen on it’s own… if things are meant to work out it will at this point… but if you feel it in you heart that it’s failed, then walk away gracefully, leave a note and say your goodbyes… trust me, you’ll be surprised at how much respect he might have that you taken this road with no emotional attachment when leaving…
oh oh AquaTrainer you’re in big trouble for yourself if you don’t get out of this soon. I know exactly what you are doing I went through all the mess you described and in the end you lose, but wait maybe not, in the loooooooooooong run I think you win. Right now be true to yourself and principles, do not lose yourself for someone who is not willing to get lost with you. He is stringing you like a puppet.
I always have a Piscean guy liking me!
Facebook User – you really opened my eyes a lot! Especially with the “BIG” reason we don’t get along. It’s so true lol. As of right now, and I’ll reiterate, the past 2 weeks have been fantastic, but I’ve been focusing on all the stuff going on in my life – I have two news jobs and they are requiring me to be focused on my own sales and my own stability. My Pisces is doing his own thing and he’s calling more often…wanting more testiments of love…which I give if I feel like it. I’m not necessarily playing games.. I’m just kind of like “Hey, I’m awesome. This is what I do and this is what I’m capable of. If you don’t want it I’ll more than gladly leave you high and dry”. Aquatic, I don’t think it’s too late and if we do break up – I’m not the loser, he is. But, I appreciate your empathy and I’m capable of fully detaching myself from someone. Maybe one or two nights of crying, but I’m one of the strongest people I know (Pisces being stronger, but screw him! I have a highschool and college education! He has bad credit and lying eyes…. yeah I win).
aquatic,
nah she doesn’t unless he gets vindictive, which is rare for a Pisces, but he has a Gemini rising, so he may stoop that low if he feels very hurt and thinks she is being unfair, then RUN WOMAN RUN! lol save your self the moment he gets that low… one good way to tell is when he starts making personal attacks that hit so close to home that you just physically want to react, that should be the clue for when he has hit the vindictive wall.
AquaTrainer,
Good to hear, keep at it… Pisces have a thing for a woman that has a life of her own, who can stay focused and have fun with her family/friends. They like knowing you don’t need them 24/7… kind of makes them, how do you say “chase you” more often haha. Also don’t play the game for too long, cause if he senses that you are playing head games, he’ll just leave you alone for good, but if you make it painfully aware without saying anything that you “need” him or “miss” him, that’ll make him leave you alone too. They like a good balance of desire and space from a woman. It’s had to pull it off unless you are a pro at this.
I think if you want to start connecting with him more and feel it’s not over JUST YET, then try some meditation that can help you get in touch with your intuition a little more. That may get you on a more subconscious level with him. And trust me told a Pisces will trust his intuition over rational reasoning any day of the week, which is why it makes no sense half the time the way these guys react, say what they say, and show you how they feel. It’s ironically one of the few things I have in common with those guys on a huge deep level, because i’m almost the same.
But the smart Pisces also use what they have gathered over the years from experience and mix that with intuition, that’s how you get a smart Pisces with common sense. Those are the hard ones to find, usually those are the ones that screwed over the most by women, learn from those mistakes, and end up being very detached.
Yet when the right woman comes into their lives, they are all over here like peanut butter on bread, because she is the jelly in his sandwich of life.
My favorite famous Pisces male (Gemini Moon) is Freddie Prinze Jr. who married Sarah Michelle Gellar (Aries w/ a Pisces moon). Now they were friends for about 3 years before they got involved, which helped them to know one another, hangout platonically, and gain trust in one another. Sarah is very smart, graduated 2 years ahead of schedule from high school, got straight “A’s”, did three different sports, and was acting, all done at 16 years of age. She was unique, intelligent, funny, and didn’t mind sharing her opinions (this got her labeled a b***h in hollywood). Then you have Freddie, who is handsome, quiet, quirky, charming, and witty. They basically compliment each other because her moon is emotionally on the same page as his sun and vice versa when it comes to his moon and her sun. When you look at other aspects, she has a lot of water and he has a lot more air, so basically they have the urge to talk, hangout, and connect mentally and emotionally on the same level. They have been married since 2002 and recently in august/september gave birth to a little baby girl (who is a Virgo baby, perfect addition!)
My point in using them is to show you an example of two people who have complimentary plants and aspects that work together, even if they don’t have the same element for sun signs, but fi they have everything else that is, then it can work out easily.
I think you should go to the website that I love and seems to always be good with this, but try: http://www.moonit.com . There you can get a better insight to how you guys mesh not only with astrology, but chinese astrology, numerology, and more that they use to compare all aspects as either friends, lovers, or on a working level.
Andalusia,
haha well that’s great (no sarcasm intend! lol), but why don’t you fill us in on your basic aspects from your chart and his… then tell us about the both of you and how you interact… by doing so I can offer you some advice on how to handle.
I’ll give you an example… If has an air type moon (gemini/libra/aquarius), then he’ll be more detached very early on and won’t demand you of every second of everyday… it won’t get that way till about 6 months to a year into the relationship that he wants you more often… also air moon pisces types will want to be mentally stimulated more often and try to make a friendship connection as well as a love connection, then say a water moon pisces, who will want an emotional connection with you, but also know you mentally and take things slow. They like the old fashion way of romance and for sex as well.
And to all the other ladies reading this, the rest is for you…
The more slow a process that a Pisces, Cancer, or Scorpio male goes with you, the more he is invested in you emotionally and mentally. I’m currently started getting to know a cancer with a cancer moon (ahhh! double crab! lol) but his moon and my moon are on the same page, we also have the same element for mercury (this plays into easy communication then), and even though out venus-mars is different (he has both Leo for venus/mars & i’ve got pisces venus/gemini mars), we still seem to enjoy this…
I can say that from my overall experience with Pisces males, that the more water in his chart, the more moody he will be with you, he won’t tell you what’s wrong, cause he expects you to read his mind or at least subconsciously “know” what’s going on with him… if you are both very intuitive, think outside the box, are quarky/unique, don’t mind being creative for romance, and are not materialistic (i.e. – money is more important than love to you) you may end up reeling in a water sign male easily…